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Question 3: What is the difference between rhyme ang rhythm in poetry? Please give an example.
Answered by Akira:
I think rhythm can be considered as the drum beats,It is the way people stop theis speaking in a moment in poetry
Ex: "Trăm năm trong cõi người ta
CHữ tài chữ mệnh khéo là ghét nhau"
The rhythm is 2-2-2....
One more example: When you go to a karaoke shop, you choose 1 song and you don''t sing. The rhythm of that song is what you here
About rhyme, it''s easier
Ex"Trăm năm trong cõi người ta
Chữ tài chữ mệnh khéo là ghét nhau"
The rhyme is :"ta" and "là"
Chambres'' adding: I would like to add some basic knowledges about rhyme and rhythm for further understanding.
Rhyme: the similarity or likeness of sound existing between two words; the repetition of sounds that are similar or identical; expresses strong feelings and enhances the meaning and impact of poetry
masculine rhyme: the rhyme of one-syllable words or words with a final stressed syllable (light/sight, defeat/retreat)
feminine rhyme: occurs in words of two or more syllables; stress is placed on a syllable other than the last (better/setter, Cindy/windy)
internal rhyme: the repetition of similar sounds within lines
end rhyme: the repetition of similar sounds at the end of lines
perfect/exact/true rhyme: different initial consonant sounds are followed by similar vowel sounds (tie/lie, meet/feet)
approximate/slant/off rhyme: only the final consonant sounds are identical (comb/tomb, cat/cot, hope/cup); see consonance
rhyme scheme: the pattern of rhymes formed by the end rhyme in a poem; first sound is a, second sound is b, third sound is c, etc.
Rhythm: the regular pattern of stressed and unstressed syllables (beats) we hear in poetry; stress is simply the greater amount of emphasis we give to a syllable in speaking; stressed syllable is accented (long); unstressed syllable is unaccented (short)
Enjoy studying and thanks for reading.
Được Chambres sửa chữa / chuyển vào 16:53 ngày 15/06/2007

Dear all friends, how are you today? Do you feel better after some leisure of a nice Saturday? It''s was a hot day today so thanks God, I''m feeling so enjoyable with shopping and eating out...paid nearly 1 million today. I think I need a plan. Ok, don''t think that I''ve forgot you guys...and the questions for our small club.^.^ I''ve just have dinner with noodles and pepper sauce and roasted chicken and I remember that question. Here''s the question for discussion today. It related to etymology, if you want to know: Do you know why the meaning of "dinners" are different from "suppers"? Good luck this time.
Enjoy studying and thanks for reading.

Oh hey Chambres, thanks for the kind wishes. Today has been so-so, the weather hasn''t been very kind though. I felt very holed-up, and lazy, completely and utterly unproductive. It has been a long time since I visited the forums...It''s really has flourished, many clubs indeed!
I guess "dinners" and "suppers" can be easily "googled" using online dictionaries, although to be non-technically correct, the words are very interchangable and can be used varying on personal choices.
P.S: I''ve been meaning to ask, although not quite sure if this is the right place. I am available to run a short English tutoring course, free of charge of course, for maybe 3-4 weeks during the "Tet" holidays, not sure if anyone might be able to point me in the right direction?

I have some problems with my PC so I can''t follow the topic. Anyway, thank you so much. And... I have someting to say, when we are in the same topic, we are friends. Why don''t we introduce ourselves to others?

Hi chambers,
I haven''t followed this forum for ages because of my exams
. Laugh. Let me try to answer your question.
I think, to know that the word "hand" in the phrase " give me your hand" is either metaphor or synecdoche depends on the context in which it appears. Let''s expand on that point!
For example:
1) when "hand" is metaphor:
Jean, it is very heavy, please give me your hand.
2) when "hand" is synecdoche:
Please, believe in me! I am a reliable one. Give me your hand! You won''t be disappointed!
These answers are just my thinking. Hope to receive the key.

Dear all friends, good Sunday afternoon. I''m so happy to see that you guys are still interesting in this club even in Sunday instead of planning for a weekend trip. Welcone Sil, the newcomer of club PRO. Club PRO family is very happy to have you here enjoy studying and posting.
Thanks Akira and nhinanh05 for your suggestion and your answer.
Please take not that the question about dinner & supper doesn''t require definition only but including also a very interesting story explaining their difference. Good luck for searching.
Besides, I would like to announce that I made the "WEEKLY CONFERENCE CONTENT" in page 5 for easy searching so that you guys won''t have to be so strenuous every time looking for something.
I really love to share with you guys something about me, please allow me.
Name: Well, just call me Chambres ^.^
Age: 198X
Gender: XY
Hobbies: chamber music, jazz & blues, American movies, Japanese anime movies, manga books, collecting stamps, flowers, playing chess, English, French, painting, internet.
Idols: Hillary Clinton, The Carpenters, The Bee Gees, Demis Roussos, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Khánh Ly, Khánh Hà, Tuấn Ngọc, Ý Lan.
Favourtie colors: black, white, blue.
Foods: fried bread with butter, pastal with roasted chicken and sour salad, fried fish, cari noodle.
Drinks: milk.
Hope to know more about you.
BTW, I''m wondering where is the active member huydecrypter for the last few days? I''''m worried if he has been picked up by a beautiful female ghost while he was walking midnight ^.^. I really miss his questions and support and I''m very appreciated his point of view about studying English so if possible, welcome back, dude.
Alright everyone, the question for discussion today related to vocabulary, once again, hope you''ll enjoy it: When did the word crowbar begin to be used in English?
Just answer & get the vote, that''s easy right? Moreover, just tell me a relative time period, I don''t need a specific year.
Enjoy studying and thanks for reading.
Được Chambres sửa chữa / chuyển vào 14:00 ngày 17/06/2007

Question 4: Why do the word "instrument" is used for musical things instead of the word "equipment"?
Answered by gaming:
Here''s my answer for the question about instrument and equipment. An instrument in general is a tool for measuring and controlling. One special property of an instrument is it takes inputs and produces outputs. Clearly, musical devices share the same property and we should call it instruments. Equipments is just tools that provide mechanical advantages, for example, the hammer can push nails into wood while human bare hands can''t.
Chambres'' adding: Well, you totally gave us exact definitions about what instrument and equipment functionally are. So far I just want to add something more etymylogical for further neccessary searching.
The word "instrument" is a word of Old English originates in the Old French word "instrumentum" in latin language, which means a tool, an implement. "Instrumentum" is the noun form of "instruete" which means "instruct" or "equip".
The word "equipment" is the noun form of "equip" originates in old French "equiper", a form of "esquiper", originates in "skipa" of Northern Europe/ German languages which means "to put in order, to arrange".
Question 6: How did the word jackass come to describe someone behaving in a negative or idiotic manner?
Answered by huydecrypter:
I no alot of words that stem from some legend or sum1 ,e.g: boycott . but for jackass , hmm i got no idea exactly . is it from 2 words jack & ass . the latter definitely means smth , jajajajajaj.... btw , do u no the tv. series called jackass that came out recently ? they r among the most kick-ass series
Answered by gaming:
I know the word Jackass from a MTV series, a bunch of crazy guys making crazy actions. It still makes me lol when the guy name Steve-O let the crocodile bite his tits .
In animal science we use jackass for male donkeys, right? I''''m not the scientist guy... so not sure.. lol. Here''''s the clue: ass is the wild donkey. donkey has long been a symbol of ignorance, dont know why, maybe bc of its dizzyness and its stupid face . Many slangs come with ass, dumb-ass, jack-ass ..or ass only to refer someone with their idiotic actions.
Just some search-work heheh, anyway a jackass is still a jackass. Hey buds, it''''s so hard to draw my thought.. thanks to my limitation in English!! hixx. I would appreciate if anyone here help me to overcome it!
Chambres'' adding:
First we have to tell you how jackass came to describe what we today call a donkey. Ass is a very old word, of even much older roots. In late Old English it was assa, thought to have come from one of the Celtic languages (Old Irish has asal). Many other Indo-European languages had versions of the word which derived from Latin asinus, but the record seems to indicate that the Celtic version(s) lent themselves not only to Old English, but to Teutonic and Slavonic as well. From this etymologists speculate that the Celtic form has as its ultimate roots a Sumerian or Semitic word, which might explain also where the Greek form onos (source of English onager) came from. Hebrew has the word athon "ass".
Jack, used to identify the male form of a species, goes back to at least the late 16th or early 17th century. In the case of the ass, Jenny was used to refer to mares. There was a feminine form of ass in Old English, assen (formed like the feminine form of fox, vixen), but Jack and Jenny replaced the need for a feminine form.
Jackass used to describe a "fool" comes from the age-old association of clumsiness and unintelligence with asses (that''s what happens when you''ve been domesticated for millenia!); this goes back at least to the ancient Greeks and was perpetuated in the Bible. The purely metaphorical use, calling a man an ass, arose in the 17th century.
Also, relatives of ass (and Irish asal) may be found in the German ezel and Dutch esel. It is from this latter word that we derive easel, the wooden ass which carries an artist''s canvas.
Two votes has been add to huy & gaming and the content of reference has been updated. Please review for further infor.
Enjoy studying & thanks for reading.

hi my gal again
i''m still after yr topic . it seems 2 be going well . anyway , i gotta tell u da truth dat it''s at times , beyond my ability . most of the words i just use but never ask myself where they r from originally
Name: Well, just call me fox
Age: 19..
Gender: m
Hobbies: classic rock 70''s , jazz & blues, movies, soccer, collecting vinyls records, English, italian,spanish,german , going out....
Idols: not yet exactly
Favourtie colors: any that grooves me
Foods: eastern & western food
Drinks: milk , beer , fruit shake , tea , coffee..
thats smth bout me . keep going ahead . i''m always around . keep the topic alive . g luck
Dear all friends, good Sunday afternoon. I''''m so happy to see that you guys are still interesting in this club even in Sunday instead of planning for a weekend trip. Welcone Sil, the newcomer of club PRO. Club PRO family is very happy to have you here enjoy studying and posting.
Thanks Akira and nhinanh05 for your suggestion and your answer.
Please take not that the question about dinner & supper doesn''''t require definition only but including also a very interesting story explaining their difference. Good luck for searching.
Besides, I would like to announce that I made the "WEEKLY CONFERENCE CONTENT" in page 5 for easy searching so that you guys won''''t have to be so strenuous every time looking for something.
I really love to share with you guys something about me, please allow me.
Name: Well, just call me Chambres ^.^
Age: 198X
Gender: XY
Hobbies: chamber music, jazz & blues, American movies, Japanese anime movies, manga books, collecting stamps, flowers, playing chess, English, French, painting, internet.
Idols: Hillary Clinton, The Carpenters, The Bee Gees, Demis Roussos, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Khánh Ly, Khánh Hà, Tuấn Ngọc, Ý Lan.
Favourtie colors: black, white, blue.
Foods: fried bread with butter, pastal with roasted chicken and sour salad, fried fish, cari noodle.
Drinks: milk.
Hope to know more about you.
BTW, I''''m wondering where is the active member huydecrypter for the last few days? I''''''''m worried if he has been picked up by a beautiful female ghost while he was walking midnight ^.^. I really miss his questions and support and I''''m very appreciated his point of view about studying English so if possible, welcome back, dude.
Alright everyone, the question for discussion today related to vocabulary, once again, hope you''''ll enjoy it: When did the word crowbar begin to be used in English?
Just answer & get the vote, that''''s easy right? Moreover, just tell me a relative time period, I don''''t need a specific year.
Enjoy studying and thanks for reading.

Hi everyone!
My name is Thành and I gotta say "what an interesting topic"! You''''re doing a great job, Chambres! Keep going, gorgeous!
@ Huy: If you''''re still interested in talking with someone in English, give me a buzz! My YIM is mr_badguy2008. And btw, I can''''t wait to disscuss with you about DJing.
Have a good time, ladies and gentlement!
Được mr_badguy sửa chữa / chuyển vào 21:43 ngày 17/06/2007

hi bg , i ''ll add u in
for talkin bout dj-ing or smth else , we''d better talk right here , as here''s a pro topic , right ? what do u major in ? i could say , my rich vocabulary focused on these aspects : soccer , muzik , lp vinyl ( material for dj-ing , as u might know) conversations ....
Hi everyone!
My name is Thành and I gotta say "what an interesting topic"! You''''''''re doing a great job, Chambres! Keep going, gorgeous!
@ Huy: If you''''''''re still interested in talking with someone in English, give me a buzz! My YIM is mr_badguy2008. And btw, I can''''''''t wait to disscuss with you about DJing.
Have a good time, ladies and gentlement!