Giới thiệu về Su-27SKM và Su-30MK2 (Phần 3)

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China plans to buy Russian carrier-based fighters, deal in snag

Mar 8 10:22 PM US/Eastern

BEIJING, March 9 (AP) - (Kyodo)?"China has been negotiating a deal with Russia to buy aircraft carrier-borne fighters but talks have hit a snag over the minimum number of aircraft to be sold, according to a Hong Kong-based defense magazine.
The Kanwa Defense Review says in an article published this month that China wants to acquire 14 Sukhoi-33 multi-role fighters but Russia has baulked at the idea.
The magazine quoted a Russian defense industry source as saying that Beijing told Russia that it would buy up to 50 Su-33 for use on "several" aircraft carriers and wanted to initially acquire two aircraft as "samples."
Russia reportedly turned down the Chinese proposal, wary that the Chinese might use the aircraft to copy the technology.
China increased its offer to 14 aircraft but the Russians still said no, arguing that selling Su-33 to China would involve fitting the aircraft to Chinese specifications and selling just 14 aircraft would not cover the extra costs.
To build a customized assembly line would require a minimum order of about 24 aircraft, the magazine quoted the source as saying.
The magazine says China is launching a project this year to build two aircraft carriers.
The Chinese, it says, plan to ultimately deploy Jian-11 fighters, a multi-role fighter now under development in China, and other Chinese- built aircraft on their future carrier fleet.
They are negotiating an aircraft-purchase deal with Russia apparently as a stop-gap measure, the magazine said.
There are online media reports that China plans to build a full-size, 93,000-ton nuclear-powered carrier by 2020 and complete the construction of a mid-size, 48,000-ton non-nuclear carrier next year.



China to Buy Su-33 Carrier-Based Fighters from Russia?
11-Mar-2009 13:46 EDT
Related Stories: Asia - China, Contracts - Intent, Fighters & Attack, New Systems Tech, Other Corporation, Rumours, Russia, Surface Ships - Combat
Near the end of October 2006, Russiâ?Ts Kommersant newspaper revealed that Russian state-run weapon exporter Rosoboronexport is completing negotiations with China to deliver up to 48 Sukhoi SU-33 (NATO codename: Flanker-D) carrier-capable fighter aircraft in a purchase deal reportedly worth $2.5 billion. The SU-33 is a variant of Sukhoi?Ts SU-27 Flanker with forward canards, foldings wings, an arrester hook, a reinforced structure, and other modifications that help it deal with carrier operations and landings.
At present, reports regarding the sale and Chinâ?Ts aircraft carrier intentions both remain somewhat murky. chinâ?Ts intent to field aircraft carriers is becoming clearer and clearer, but the availability of aircraft could be a problem ?" Russia has reportedly refused to sell the SU-33s, citing past pirating of Russian designs?
The PLA Navy has made contradictory statements regarding its wish to have an operational aircraft carrier, but most expert observers believe they are working on a program to do so. Assurances that the Varyag is destined to be a floating hotel do appear somewhat at variance with the PLAN paint job ?" the question is whether the Chinese believe they can bring it up to operational status, or are simply using the ship as a learning platform in preparation for their own construction efforts later.
In October 2006, SinoDefence.com reported that China will spend $100 million to buy 2 Su-33 fighters from Komsomolsk-on-Amur Production Association for ?~trial and evaluations,?T with delivery expected in 2007-08. Reports claim there is also an agreed option for another 12 Su-33 fighters, with the potential for the deal to grow to 48 SU-33s and $2.5 billion. They add that Chinâ?Ts Dalian Shipyard is currently refitting the ex-Soviet Navy aircraft carrier Varyag, acquired in extremely poor con***ion from the Ukraine in 1999.
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SU-33 carrier launch
(click for 3-view)March 10/09: The Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper reports that Russia is refusing to sell China SU-33 jets, citing past piracy of the design for its SU-27 fighters. China initially sought 2 SU-33s for its ?otrial basis? order, which are a modified variant of the SU-27. Subsequent negotiations reportedly raised the ?otrial? order to 14 of the 50 aircraft China said it wanted, but that was not enough to remove the basic problem.
In 1995, China received a license for the production of 200 Su-27SK fighters; that agreement was later terminated at 95 planes. China cushioned the blow by ordering a total of 110 SU-30MK2s between 1999-2003, but they are now producing a ?oJ-11B? fighter that appears to be an SU-27 with Chinese radar and avionics, and Chinese WS-10 engines in place of Russian Lyulka AL-31s. The issue was reportedly raised at the 13th meeting of the Russian-Chinese Committee for Military Cooperation in December 2008, without resolution.
If Russia believes that its SU-33s are being ordered so they can be cloned by the Chinese, creating a future with no further orders from China, and a cheaper version of their weapons offered for global export, then their lack of interest in a deal is understandable.
Note that concerns are also being raised in Russia around ongoing production of Russian-derived Cold War era designs by Eastern European countries, which could create future diplomatic incidents. Pravda report.
Dec 31/08: Japan?Ts Asahi Shimbun:
China will begin construction of the country?Ts first domestically produced aircraft carriers in Shanghai next year, with an eye to completing two mid-sized carriers by 2015, military and shipbuilding sources said. Beijing is also expected to complete work on a never-finished former Soviet aircraft carrier moored in the northeastern port of Dalian, to provide training for carrier-based pilots and crew. The two 50,000- to 60,000-ton carriers will rely on conventional propulsion systems, not nuclear power?..
According to sources close to Shanghai municipal authorities, one of the world?Ts largest shipbuilding facilities was completed this fall on Changxingdao island at the mouth of the Changjiang river near Shanghai. One of the four docks there is for construction of the aircraft carriers, they said.?
See also: Information Dissemination.
Dec 23/08: Chinâ?Ts defence ministry spokesman Huang Xueping discusses that country?Ts carrier plans during a rare press conference, called to announce the dispatch of Chinese warships to the Somali coast on anti-piracy patrols. When asked about rumors of a Chinese aircraft carrier, he said that:
?oAn aircraft carrier is a symbol of overall national strength and a symbol of the competitiveness of the nation?Ts naval forcê? The Chinese government will take into overall account the relevant factors and seriously consider the relevant issue.?
Oct 24/08: Janê?Ts report:
?oRussian sources have now told Janê?Ts that under the current proposal the Russian in-service Su-33 would be put back into production and the PLAN would acquire 14 of this type to be used for the training phase of the programmê?.
?oThe next step will be to modernise the Su-33, which was first designed in the late 1980s, with a new set of state-of-the-art onboard systems,? a KnAAPO representative told Janê?Ts on the eve of the biennial Air Show China in late October. ?oWhat this new aeroplane is most likely to be is a combination Su-33 airframe with a radar, avionics and ****pit instrumentation that is a ?~developed?T configuration based on the Su-30MK2, and this will be the PLAN?Ts operational version.?
Sept 19/08: Indian Express cites a small article in a recent issue of the Peoplê?Ts Liberation Army (PLA) Daily, which announced that the first batch of 50 pilots cadets have been inducted at the Dalian Naval Academy to undergo training on ?~ship borne aircraft flight.?T The first batch of pilots undergoing training on ?~basic theories of surface ship and flight?T will reportedly graduate from the academy in 4 years.
Nov 1/06: Russian news agency RIA Novosti describes the negotiations as ?oat a preliminary stage.? That same article also noted that Alexander Denisov, who headed Russiâ?Ts delegation at Airshow China 2006, said that Russia is ready to help China design an aircraft carrier if asked.

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bác gulf post ko có thời gian dịch thì chỉ post ảnh kèm lời bình thôi bác ạ
với lại cái vụ Su 33 này xưa quá rồi mà, Nga ngố nó có chịu bán cho đâu mà mua
Được macay3 sửa chữa / chuyển vào 10:42 ngày 23/03/2009

Cho em hỏi 2 cái thanh lộ ra trên thân có phải là cần tiếp dầu ko ah
nếu là cần tiếp dầu thì sao lại có nhiều đến thế
1 bên 2 thanh vị chi là 4 thanh

Nó được gọi là Pitot tube, là một cảm ứng dựa trên áp suất để đo lường tốc độ của dòng khí chảy xung quanh máy bay. Thường thì máy bay chỉ có mỗi bên 1 cái nhưng Su-27 lại có 4 cái 1 bên chắc là để đo lường được chính xác hơn vì tốc độ không khí sẽ rất khác nhau khi chảy qua các bề mặt khác nhau của máy bay

Được Russianfan sửa chữa / chuyển vào 14:17 ngày 24/03/2009

Ống tiếp dầu của Su-30/ Su-33 nằm ở phía trước & nhô ra/ rút lại được
Vị trí ở bên trái phía trước buồng lái
Lấy tạm mấy cái hình trong game để mô tả

Tổng thống trong cabin Su-34
Hôm 28 tháng ba tổng thống Nga Dmitri Medvedev đến căn cứ không quân của không quân Nga "kubinka" ở ngoại ô Moscow.

Ông xem các loại vũ khí và trang bị kỹ thuật quân sự của hệ thống phòng thủ đối không của Không quân Nga, và nói riêng, hệ thống tên lửa phòng không S-300 và S-400.

Sau khi xem các trang thiết bị hàng không, Medvedev trải qua kiểm tra sức khỏe và lên chiếc máy bay Su-34.

 

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