Liệu Có cơ hội cho chúng ta?

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Friend in need
JOHN CHERIAN
recently in Hanoi
The Vietnamese Prime Minister''''s visit comes at a time when his country is emerging as an economic powerhouse in Asia.
KAMAL SINGH

Vietnam''''s Prime Minister *************** and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during the ceremonial reception at the Rashtrapati Bhavan on July 6.
The state visit of Vietnamese Prime Minister *************** to India coincided with the celebrations of the 35th anniversary of the commencement of diplomatic ties between the two countries.
Dung''''s visit, the first in 10 years by a Vietnamese Prime Minister, comes at a time when his country is emerging as an economic powerhouse in Asia. Its economy has grown from $40 billion in 2004 to $60 billion in 2006. The boom was evident to this correspondent who last visited Hanoi 10 years ago. Though two-wheelers still dominate the traffic in the capital, flashy new cars are also much in evidence. New satellite towns earmarked for technology parks and rich non-resident Vietnamese have come up. The Vietnamese Communist Party seems to be replicating the Chinese model of development at breakneck speed. A senior Vietnamese official told this correspondent that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a blessing in disguise for his country. Otherwise, he said, Vietnam would have remained underdeveloped and poor.
Vietnam is looking for investments and diversification of trade and political ties at this important juncture in its history. President ***************** was on a high-profile visit to the United States in the last week of June. It is evident that a newly confident Vietnam wants to strengthen relations with all major global players, including the US and China. Dung came to India with a large, high-powered delegation, which included a 78-member business delegation. Before his departure for India, Dung said that the visit would provide "a good opportunity to create positive developments in politics, the economy, security, national defence, culture, education and training, and science and technology, thus taking Vietnam-India relations to a new height". Dung emphasised that Vietnam always supported India in multilateral forums such as the United Nations and the Non-Aligned Movement.
AFP

*************** and his wife, Tran Thanh Kiem, pose next to the statue of the late Vietnamese leader Ho Chi Minh in Kolkata on July 4.
Dung visited Kolkata, where he had fruitful discussions with West Bengal Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee. Dung thanked the people of West Bengal for the whole-hearted support they extended to his country in its struggle against US imperialism. But the focus of the visit was business. During his visit to Mumbai, Dung said that there was great potential for Indian investments in his country. The Tata Group has already signed a Memorandum of Understanding to set up a steel plant in Vietnam. If the project materialises, India will leapfrog to be among the top five foreign investors in the burgeoning economy of Vietnam. Other big Indian companies, such as the Essar Group, have also pledged big investments in Vietnam.
After talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in New Delhi, Dung expressed the hope that bilateral relations would soon encompass "a comprehensive strategic partnership in science, technology and education". He also praised India''''s "Look East" policy, saying that it helped South-East Asian nations come closer to India. India and Vietnam have signed agreements to study and apply the use of nuclear power for peaceful purposes. In conversation with the media in Hanoi, Dung said that Vietnam was interested in harnessing nuclear energy to accelerate economic development. Indian public sector oil companies already have a strong presence in Vietnam. Dung called on Indian companies to invest more in Vietnam''''s oil sector.
Shared history
The legendary Ho Chi Minh once said that the two countries share an old relationship, noting that "the culture and Buddhism of India travelled to Vietnam". Though the approaches the two countries took to win independence were tactically different, the anti-colonial struggle helped to forge an anti-imperialist unity. Jawaharlal Nehru''''s progressive world view helped shape the Congress party''''s response to other anti-colonial struggles being waged in South-East Asia and other parts of the world. Vietnamese leaders, despite their communist beliefs, were invited to the Asian Relations Conference held in New Delhi in 1947.
Millions of Vietnamese lost their lives, first fighting against the French and later on, the Americans. In fact, the victory of Vietnamese forces against the French army in the epic battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954 - the first victory that a people''''s army scored against a colonial power - was a great inspiration to all those fighting against colonial rule and injustice. In the 1960s and the 1970s, Vietnam was the cause celebre of many political parties in India. One of the first things the Left Front government in West Bengal did after coming to power was to re-name one of the main roads in the capital Kolkata after Ho Chi Minh.
The high-profile visits of Jawaharlal Nehru to Vietnam in 1954 and Ho Chi Minh to India in 1958 further cemented relations between the two countries. Nehru, during his visit, praised Ho Chi Minh as "a great revolutionary". This was after Dien Bien Phu. The even more epic battle against the US occupation was yet to begin in earnest. India extended unwavering diplomatic support to the Vietnamese during the long-drawn-out struggle for reunification and the war against the US. India as member of the International Commission of Control and Supervision for Vietnam (ICCS) was critical of the US air raids over the north of the country. In 1966, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi called for the immediate cessation of US bombing raids.
Indians, like people all over the developing world, were inspired by the valour and fighting spirit of the Vietnamese as they stood up to the might of the superpower and eventually defeated it. In a speech in the Indian Parliament in 1972, External Affairs Minister Swaran Singh compared the liberation of Vietnam to the liberation of Bangladesh. Both countries raised their diplomatic relations to ambassadorial levels the same year. After the Vietnam War ended, India supported Vietnam''''s position on Cambodia following the ouster of the notorious Pol Pot regime. Washington and Beijing, along with many Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) countries, were extremely critical of the "invasion" of Cambodia by Vietnam. That invasion purged the Khmer Rouge from power in Cambodia. Atal Bihari Vajpayee cut short a visit to China in 1979, when he was the External Affairs Minister, in a show of solidarity with Vietnam following the Chinese attack on it.
A Joint Commission for Economic, Scientific and Technical Cooperation was set up to provide an institutional mechanism for bilateral cooperation. Bilateral relations were elevated to a higher plane after Prime Minister Narasimha Rao initiated the "Look East" policy in 1991. The Indian government''''s decision to participate more actively in the South-East and East Asian region came in for appreciation, especially in Hanoi. But the fact remains that despite political ties between the two countries being "excellent", economic and trade ties continue to be limited in scope. Bilateral trade continues to be minimal, accounting for less than 0.2-0.3 per cent of India''''s total import-export volume and 0.3 per cent of Vietnam''''s import-export volume. Vietnam''''s export to India constitutes only around 1 per cent of ASEAN''''s exports to India. The total value of India-Vietnam trade stood at just $1 billion in 2006. At a meeting between External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee and Vietnamese Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Pham Gia Khiem on the sidelines of the G-8 summit in Germany, it was agreed that bilateral trade would be doubled by the year 2010.
Investment destination
There is considerable scope for India to increase its foreign direct investment in Vietnam. India occupies the 35th position among 73 countries that have invested in the country. Very few of the big names in Indian industry have registered their presence in Vietnam. Vietnam, with its economy booming, wants Indian presence in the key sectors of power and information technology and the manufacture of agro-machinery. Cooperation in science and technology could be enhanced significantly, especially in fields such as agro-biotechnology and pharmaceuticals. India is helping Vietnam in research related to the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Tourism is another sector that needs to be looked into. Vietnam has become a favoured destination for millions of tourists from the West and elsewhere. More than a million Indian tourists visited Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia in 2006 but only a few thousand Indians visited Vietnam.
Enhancing cooperation between the two countries in the field of defence should be viewed as a priority. India can play a bigger role in helping the Vietnamese army to modernise. An unstated aim of both the countries for cooperating closely in the defence arena is a shared distrust of neighbouring China and its growing military capabilities. Both countries have the shared experience of military confrontations with China. However, both countries have adopted the policy of maintaining good relations with China while at the same time retaining their military deterrence. Indian military delegations visited Vietnam in 1979 to study how Vietnam''''s army gave China''''s war machine a "bloody nose" in the course of their border confrontation. As part of the Indian government''''s "Look East" policy, an agreement on Defence Cooperation was signed in 1994. But there was no substantial forward movement.
Chinese tangent
However, by the late 1990s, China''''s growing strategic presence in the Indian Ocean seems to have generated suspicion in Hanoi and New Delhi. The then Defence Minister George Fernandes, while on a visit to Hanoi in 2000, said that India''''s strategic interests extended from the northern part of the Arabian Sea to the South China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. India has conducted naval exercises jointly and on its own in the South China Sea. The recent decision by India, Japan and Australia to hold joint exercises is an illustration. Not surprisingly, China has been viewing these developments with suspicion. Japan and Australia are close allies of the US. If recent statements of senior Vietnamese leaders are any indications, Hanoi, despite its apprehensions about the growing clout of the Chinese military, does not want to get enmeshed in overtly anti-China alliances. Pham Gia Khiem, during his visit to New Delhi this year, said that the countries in his region stood to gain by the rise of both China and Russia. From media reports, strategic issues did not figure prominently in the bilateral talks between leaders of India and Vietnam. The focus apparently was more on enhancing bilateral economic and trade ties.
During the 2000 visit of Fernandes, the first by an Indian Defence Minister to Vietnam, the two sides signed a 15-point Defence Assistance Agreement. This created an institutionalised framework for regular meetings between the Defence Ministers to discuss matters relating to shared threat perceptions. The navies as well as the Coast Guards of both countries have been conducting regular joint exercises for the past seven years. The Indian Navy can impart considerable expertise to the Vietnamese Navy in safeguarding its maritime assets in the Gulf of Tonkin and the South China Sea. Vietnam''''s air force pilots are trained by the Indian Air Force.
There is a school of thought in India that wants much more to be done to strengthen strategic ties with Vietnam. One way to achieve this, it feels, is by leveraging defence ties towards strategic ends.
Vietnam was initially keen on sourcing the spares for many of its Russian vintage equipment from India. But the prices quoted by India were higher than those quoted by countries such as Belarus, Russia and Ukraine. Some defence deals have failed to materialise because of payment-related problems and bureaucratic bottlenecks.
Some Indian commentators have said that "friendship prices" similar to the offers China makes to its "all weather" friends should have been made to Vietnam. They have suggested that New Delhi consider the sale of Prithvi and Brahmos missiles to Vietnam. Reports in the Indian media say that the Vietnamese side has shown an interest in sophisticated defence equipment manufactured indigenously in India.
Many Indian strategic thinkers argue that India should assist Vietnam to become a major power in the region. Some Indian analysts have suggested that India ask for basing facilities at the Cam Ranh Bay harbour.
After the Russians vacated the base, many countries have expressed an interest in using the facilities available at the base.
Ấn Độ và NC quan tâm đến cung cấp tên lửa Prithvi and Brahmos cho NC nên hy vọng không xa NC sẽ trang bị được Prithvi and Brahmos cho quân đội mình
Không biết Ấn Độ đào tạo phi công lái máy bay gì cho mình nhỉ, có bác nào biết không ạ? Nhớ có đọc tài liệu mới đây trên net nói NC có nhờ AĐ huấn luyện hải quân tàu ngầm cho mình nhưng hình như không có tiến triễn rõ ràng
Được su_30 sửa chữa / chuyển vào 14:23 ngày 19/07/2007

Ấn phía tây, Việt phía nam, Nga phía bắc, Đài phía đông. Hết đường chạy.
Cơ hội rõ ràng rồi còn gì.

Và ngay sau WW III là WW IV lúc đó NC và thằng béo choảng nhau bằng gạch vụn

Các bác ạ, theo em thì NC của mình như thế này là ổn lắm rồi, các thằng ghẻ kia nó có làm càn thì cứ tạm thời thì cứ ín nhịn đi đã, "giận quá mất khôn" mà. Cứ bình tĩnh, đâu khắc có đó. Các bác cứ yên tâm là nó ko làm càn được lâu đâu. Tuy nhiên........anh em ta cứ bình luận tiếp cách trị GHẺ. TỰ HÀO LÀ NGƯỜI VIỆT NAM

Mấy cái thằng dân trí thấp này choảng nhau thể nào thua vài trận cũng mang nuke ra oánh liền!Hồi xưa Pak cũng tí nữa cho F-16 mang quà cho Ấn còn gì?

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Mấy cái thằng dân trí thấp này choảng nhau thể nào thua vài trận cũng mang nuke ra oánh liền!Hồi xưa Pak cũng tí nữa cho F-16 mang quà cho Ấn còn gì?
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- Nó dọa nhau thôi bác ạ. Chơi thật thì làm sao có chuyện chưa đánh đã lộ bung bét lên thế. Nếu làm thật thì pak thành đống gạch vụn ngay tắp lự. Pak vẫn thù Ấn vì vụ để Bangladesh tách ra thành quốc gia độc lập.
- Hai thằng này mặt bằng phổ cập kiến thức hơi thấp nhưng giới tinh hoa của nó thì khỏi chê. Dân IT của nó có mặt khắp nơi trên thế giới đấy. Mà công nhận dân chúng ở đó sợ chính quyền ghê gớm, theo kiểu cam chịu ấy. Bác đã bao giờ thấy cảnh một chú cảnh sát đi trước, tay cầm GẬY TRE chắp sau đít, đằng sau là 3, 4 thằng bị trói thay bằng dây ni lông, cắm cúi đi theo, cấm có dám chạy. Thấy có thằng Ấn nói gậy tre là một thứ biểu hiện quyền lực, dân nhìn là hãi rồi, không hiểu tại sao.

Ở gia đọan ngắn hạn(5năm) , theo các bác mấy loại vũ khí nào AĐ có thể "chia sẻ" với NC?
Tank, Pháo, tên lữa, Máy bay( su, Mig, Mirage), tàu chiến
Được su_30 sửa chữa / chuyển vào 13:43 ngày 01/08/2007

Theo em, mình cứ thủ sẵn hàng(mua thêm vài con Su với mấy cái bo bo cỡ bự bắn tên lửa) , chờ Ghẻ với Ấn choảng nhau, mình cứ thỉnh thoảng đớp trộm nó 1 nhát trả thù vụ biên giới với Trường Sa, khoẻ hêh, bác mod nghĩ em spam, cứ xoá thẳng tay ạ, merci !!!

Trong thâm tâm các bác lãnh tụ nhà mình, các bác không sợ Khựa đâu. Chỉ sợ về kinh tế thôi. Bây giờ không cẩn thận ô tô của nó tràn ngập (như kiểu xe đạp mi ni tàu, xe wave tàu mấy năm trước) thì toi đời. Chứ choảng nhau bằng đồ chơi thông thường thì nó muốn nuốt gọn NC tới mũi Cà mau thì nó cũng phải dồn toàn lực. Chứ nửa triệu quân thì đên mẽo mình còn không sợ. Theo em, muốn nuốt thì phải rải cỡ khoảng 2,5 triệu quân sang đây. Thế thì tiếp tế, tiếp liệu kiểu gì? Đóng quân ở đây chưa đầy nửa năm thì phong trao du kích, chiến tranh nhân dân với độ 4 triệu chú cầm AK chạy lung tung trên lãnh thổ chữa S. Cứ 2 chú thịt 1 thằng Khựa. Thử hỏi thằng Khựa có giám không?

bác PhuongAK cứ vui tính. trên mảnh đất chữ S này , kiếm đủ 4triệu chú cầm tuyp hay phớ thì dễ chứ kiếm đc 4tr khẩu AK phát cho 4tr chú thì nơi nan?!
dân ta giỏi móc lốp lắm. Khựa nó chả ngu đâu. cùng lắm là nó dẫn lũ tàu chiến của nó xuống làm gỏi nốt TS thôi. mục đích của nó là ở chỗ đấy. chứ đòi nhai cả NC thì quá khó, ông bà nó cả ngàn năm còn làm k nổi nữa là. mà chiếm cả NC để làm zi`.
em đọc mấy sách ngày xưa nói về thằng Biền họ Cao, thấy rằng nếu lũ Khựa muốn cắn NC thì k chỉ dùng vũ lực là xong đâu. zì chứ các cụ cõi âm nhà ta cũng mạnh lắm!.
Được tomcatk56 sửa chữa / chuyển vào 16:40 ngày 02/08/2007