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Live here or survive there?

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  1. Tao_lao

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    "Đổi mới"(revolution) process have changed a lot of things in Vietnam.Thank to the process,Vietnam from a country which could not feed itself turned into one of the biggest country exporting rice over some past years.Such achivements can be shown in a long list which everybody can "feel" them daily through public communication systems.And one of the most important factor in this process is human resourse (this is highlighted again and again whenever the topic was mentioned about ).There are a lot of things to cover which we could not do so at once.In this short posting,i just want to mention about one feartures of the problem. That is geographical distribution of human resourse:Live here or survive there.
    There is a fact that people always tent to work in the own best con***ions and live in the own most comfortable one.Let take one example.A student from a rural region after graduating wish to stay in a city to work.Certainly,his family should accompany him.Very simple,it is finance reason.Moreover,the life in rural is very difficult nowaday (less job,less land, more people and agricultural product is terible cheap ).In my hometown, i remembered that three coconuts costed 2000 VND.How have the farmers survived in the suiation?And this led to the mass emigration from rural to urban over past years.Anyway,it is another topic.Come back what i tried to mention above.What are the reasons forced the student go to the city?Everybody know.That is survival reason.But if the con***ion allow him to live and work in his hometown.Let say,he is offered more money,more suitable work position etc.What should he do?
    Similarly, oversea people and students in particular is faced to the same matter.Many of my friends and even myself are not exceptions.What could we do?





    Tao_lao
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    Hi , and thanks for an interesting topic which has been a major concern not only for millions of the young generation but also for the current government .
    We all want *****rvive at first , and then we want to live , no matter at what age we might be .
    I believe the major reason for young people to migrate from their home-towns to big cities is making a better survival . Developing cities with more industrialisation is a good source of work and education oppoturnity distribution . Life there is surely more expensive , but chances for a better survival are always here and there .
    And I believe many other countries have gone through the same process where their governments had to put in huge efforts to improve living and working con***ion in the countryside , to call for more investments into remote areas throughout the country , to narrow the gap between urban and rural living standards and finally to encourage more young people to work in their home-towns through different incentive policies .
    Of course , a young mind always expects and looks for excitements which will naturally be around bigger cities . But there's a price to pay for everything , isn't it ?
    Several of my friends went abroad for an overseas study , and many of them do not seem to return to work in Vietnam after their graduation .
    Why ? Perhaps they prefer a more challenging survival which might better ensure a more quality life in the long run ...
    But some prefer to go back and contribute to their mother country since they discovered deeper values in getting along with the challenges and developments of their loving nation . They are not making a wrong choice compared to the others , aren't they ?
    And nobody can stop thousands of people coming to big cities for a better survival everyday . The government has a lot to do about it .
    Votrungh@
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    Hi Votrungh,
    First of all i want to thank for your reading and response.I hope we will discuss about this topic more and more in the future.
    Your posting help me "understand" more but i still have some unclear points:
    Firstly, it is about "suvival" word you used.You wrote:
    "I believe the major reason for young people to migrate from their home-towns to big cities is making a better survival . Developing cities with more industrialisation is a good source of work and education oppoturnity distribution . Life there is surely more expensive , but chances for a better survival are always here and there"
    So if they migrated from their hometown to big cities is just for "better suvival",why do not they migrate to someplaces where they can "live better"?In my vocabulary,"live" and "suvive" are quite different.If a person could not survive in some situations,should he/she migrate for better living ?From the hometown to big cities?But even in the cities,they could not survive.Where should he/she go next?I clear the question,why did a lot of Vietnamese "migate" (imaging that if Vietnam open the border,how many people still stay?).Anyway,it is the undersanding of a "tao_lao".If it is wrong,i hope i can hear the explainations from the people in "Trí Tuệ Việt Nam".
    Then,you wrote:
    " And I believe many other countries have gone through the same process where their governments had to put in huge efforts to improve living and working con***ion in the countryside , to call for more investments into remote areas throughout the country , to narrow the gap between urban and rural living standards and finally to encourage more young people to work in their home-towns through different incentive policies"
    I agree with you about the policy of goverment to distribute logically the human resoure as well as to brigde the gap between the countryside and big cities.Of course,that is their problem.We vote them,pay them to do this job.In fact,what "achivements" have they got?Recently,i watched a TV program relate to this matter.That is how to solve accomodation for worker who are from countryside and work in the industrial zones in Hồ Chí Minh city.If you have seen and sympathised to those workers,you would know why the reasons were.
    Somemore can be included from your posting:
    "And nobody can stop thousands of people coming to big cities for a better survival everyday . The government has a lot to do about it"
    Nobody can stop it and the government has a lot of things to do about it.That is correct.Why should anybody stop?We can not do it subjectively.In the past,we did it with the economy.Fuctioned with subjectively economy,denied the prominents of freedom goods economy (which Marx never dared doing so,why Vietnamese,his students, did it).What were the consequenses?It is a lesson for us.Everything has its own laws to govern.Nobody can break it.
    In ad***ion,i do not clear what you meant in sentences:
    "Of course , a young mind always expects and looks for excitements which will naturally be around bigger cities . But there's a price to pay for everything , isn't it ?"
    What did you mean with "price" word?
    About oversea students,you supposed that:
    "Several of my friends went abroad for an overseas study , and many of them do not seem to return to work in Vietnam after their graduation .
    Why ? Perhaps they prefer a more challenging survival which might better ensure a more quality life in the long run ..."
    I do not think the reason for their staying in foreign countries has been challenging in those countries.When i studied in a university in Vietnam,a lecturer told us that:
    "Vietnam is one of the most challenging countries to do bussines.If any young men want to be challenged (to check how good he/she is),go to Vietnam." They are valuable sentences to ponder.If you check the price of electricity,phone etc and compare them to other countries,we will get the point.Moreover,the red tape should be included.
    About "quality life",i do agree with you in a certain extent.But most of oversea Vietnamese due to that reason?
    "But some prefer to go back and contribute to their mother country since they discovered deeper values in getting along with the challenges and developments of their loving nation . They are not making a wrong choice compared to the others , aren't they ?"
    They made wrong choice,did not they?What "deeper values" did they get?I do not clear.Anyway,i think the demand for the life is very limited (it is up to each one).If we feel somewhere we can "live" better (not "survive" ) why do not we go there?Moreover,it is hometown,family and loving people.But do we meet the minimum demand?Do they offer us?(maybe next time i will give you a situation which i witnessed).
    Because of limitation of time,i think i should stop here.Thank for your reading.I hope i can hear from you soon.


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