problem-solving

Diane had a full-time job as chief e***or of a woman's magazine. She and Tim had discussed what her work schedule would be after her had the baby, but they couldn't come to an agreement. She had decided that she couldn't give up her career and she went back to work full time when the bayb was six months old. Tim didn't agree with this; he thought it was important for the baby to be with his mother for the first year. He was willing to work long hours to provide the extra income for this . Diane was afraid that if she didn't go back to work right away, she would lose her position. Tim was worried that if Diane went back to work, the baby wouldn't get proper care.

Share your opinions about this situation and state how the problem should have been solved.




Được johntrung sửa chữa / chuyển vào 04/12/2002 ngày 06:44

Được johntrung sửa chữa / chuyển vào 05/12/2002 ngày 06:10

six months?

Love me, let me know
Don't love me, let me go...plz (~_*)
Được saigonbynight sửa chữa / chuyển vào 15:13 ngày 04/12/2002

Don't you ever "think" b4 saying something? There is no such a fun as you might think it was. I don't imagine somebody can make a ridiculous & inhumane joke like that.

Mess with the best, Die like the rest...
Được saigonbynight sửa chữa / chuyển vào 23:21 ngày 04/12/2002

Diane won't lose her position for just because of having a baby. According to the Labour Law, i think, a mother has a right to stay at home from 2 to 3 months before and 6-12 months after the baby is born, during that period of time, even the mother doesn't go to work but still can get salary or at least she will have something called (trợ cấp) to make sure that she will be OK after giving birth and willing to go to work again after that. No one can fired the female employee during the time they have pregnant and before her children are old enough to send them to kindergardens. Therefore i think Diane should let Tim work for longer time until she can go back to work

Dear Mr. Zerocool,
I am taken by surprise by your thoughtless reply to the topic. It might be unintentional of you to just scribble sarcastic words like that, but such a posting mirrors your immaturity in expressing your opinions in a public forum. I am not holding grudge agaisnt your frivolous demeanor as that might be the way you are , but keep in mind there are people who are serious about learning English and they do not desire to be confused by verbiage in a serious discussion. By serious, I am not saying that one can not incorporate their humor in their input, but the humor should be seriously oriented to goal of the topic : solve the problem.
I hold that the topic is challenging as it requires respondents to apply their comprehensive knowledge about sociology , law (as QuyVotinh already tried to put forward), or life experience..so on so forth. . Thus, one can write as much as he/she is capable .
If you are not interested in the topic and would rather involve yourself in something fun, then this thread might not be for you. Please refer to other threads for entertainment purpose, otherwise I challenge you to contribute a decent reply and let everyone judge your writting skill and logical reasoning
Regards,
To those who care to put their input on this topic, I will have a take on your opinions soon.
Được johntrung sửa chữa / chuyển vào 06:41 ngày 05/12/2002
Được johntrung sửa chữa / chuyển vào 06:44 ngày 05/12/2002
Được johntrung sửa chữa / chuyển vào 10:23 ngày 05/12/2002

In my opinion, they should have several things done simultaneously to solve this problem. For one thing, Diane should go back to work in a tempory period ( from 6-12 months) as a part-time e***or. She has the rights to request this option to her firm. At the same time, Tim should work over time to compensate the family income. By these actions, Diane would be able to spend more time with her baby, which is very crucial for a new life.
For the future, particularly 6-12 months after, the couple should seek out helps from both side families for a place for their baby for the next few years. This is one of the very effective ways in term of nurture a child ( establishing a good relationship to relatives, grandmom and dad, ect...). Close friends are also good places for their child. Diane would back to a full time postion. In ad***ion, they should check out the union in their work places for babysit . In short, they should find all possible helps from families, friends, and their workplaces. By these movements, their problem should be solved.
After few years, everything should be fine and the baby may joint our SEC in a very near future to learn ABC.

As far as I'm concerned, woman's role is so important . The early time of a baby extremely needs mother's care . And bearing and rearing a child is also a great happiness of woman. I think Diane should understand her responsibility with her child , and staying at home in order to take care of her baby is a necessity.
However, women in modern life also have their own career, their social life beside their family ones. In the 21st century, woman considered successful one must has a happy familiy with a good husband and well-behaved children and has a good position in society. Consequently , jobs actually become a part of their lives. In my opinion, the solution of GoBlue is quite perfect . Taking this solution, Diane can maintain her job and likewise, can be a good mother. Nevertheless, if her husband doesn't give her the green light to go to work , and unfortunately , if she doesn't have any assistance of her families, her friends, or her workplace , she'd better spend her life for her baby. After 1 year, she can find another job . I think if she has good skills and ability ,it's not too difficult to find out another suitable social position .
Let's think about this :
Some people suppose " getting married is ending women's personal life " . The first reason they mention is that after having a husband , woman has to unavoidably spend most of her time doing houseworks, taking care of her home . She will not have time to go to Karaoke, go to the coffee-shops with her close friends , to travel, even though to study , etc. In brief, she doesn't have chances to enjoy the colour of life any more.
The second reason is giving birth. The baby will take all of her time away. Therefore, she can't do anything else.
So " Is getting married an act of ending women's personal life ? " . And " what is the appropriate age for involving in marriage? "

Dimi

Sorry for posting inseriously,well,at the beginning i just thought of some jokes and didn't concern about the problem u showed--->that was my fault.Sorry for that manner I 've made.I'll take your problem insight.
mess with the best,
die with the rest

Hi,
Thanks for your constructive input . I'd like to point out some Facts related to the case before giving comments on your opinions.
While in VIetname, " parental leave" is not a popular term, in most developed countries, business entities have to set a policy about parental leave and maternity leave in compliance with the law. I do not know about whether or not other countries separate parental leave and maternity leave, but in the us they do. Do not confuse the meaning of the two terms . Parental leave is to leave to care for a child, and may apply to adopted children as well as natural-born. On the other hand, maternity leave (aks. pregnancy leave) is medical leave that is provided in connection with pregnancy-related disability, either before or after having a baby. Therefore, a female employee who is due or has already given birth to a child is entitled to medical benefits and her job back when she is ready to work. Even so, each state in the u.s has different laws on pregnancy leave. In California, the law states that all employers provide a leave of up to four months to a female employee who is actually disabled by pregnancy.
Now back to the case. Even though Dimi correctly pointed out that women are the ones who still bear most of house chores; surprisingly, the number of men who decide to stay home to take care of their children is on the rise each year ( sorry, do not have the statistic here but that's what i read before). That trend reflects a shifting balance of power from women to men in terms of home errands and children raising. In this case, that Tim opted for sacrificing a "parental leave" to stay home for the child might indicate that he still had the mindset that women is supposed to stay home and take care of the children. Therefore, I am under an impression that main problem is that the couple couldn't see eye to eye on their values and ego. The husband wanted to prove that men are the pillar of the family, that everyone else should be dependent on him. The wife, on the other hand, was striving to identify herself with a modern image of women : Strong and independent. This kind of conflict just can't be settled overnight, yet the couple could have compromised to one another by profound negotiation. A consultation with a counselor might have been helpful. The best outcome of these actions is what you guys have already pointed out : either Tim or Diane would have to stay home to take care of the child.
*****m it up, even though the solution to the case is quite crystal-clear: one stays home and the other keeps working, in real life it would turn out to be a time-consuming for couples to seek a balace between their work and family or even up a score in their relationship due to a myriad of factors including egoism, self ambition...
To GoBlue,
Keep in mind that a chielf of e***or is very important position in a publishing company. In principle, Diane could leave her job for awhile to raise her child without worring about losing that job as that is guaranteed the law , but in practice, each company works around their own policies regarding pregnancy leave in compliance with the law so that their employees wouldn't want to leave for too long for fear that their long absence would hurt their career and finance. For example, my company's maternity is that the female workers can take a leave for as long as 4 months (as bound by California law) but only the first 2 months are paid. My point is everyone should be concerned about their financial support and job knowledge while they are away . 6 months to me seems like a long vacation to me !
Thankx

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