Report for Weekly Online Meeting ( 22nd OnSpeak, Oct 27th, pg 11)

2nd OnSpeak
If you could start your life again, would you do anything differently?

Sóng thần Tsunami đã qua Indo lâu rồi,nhưng dường như nó mới đến thăm Sec ngày hôm qua...Gatihon cảm thấy như vậy...ghé thăm yahoo conference của SEC thì chỉ có 6 người...lúc đó khoảng 10h15...nhưng sóng thần này không hung ác như TV..mà nó nhẹ nhàng hơn...mang đến phù sa...tạo nên sự thân mật giữa các members of SEC... Group của gatihon chỉ có 3 người..nhưng rất vui,nói tiếng Anh chủ yếu...thỉnh thoảng chen vào vài câu tiếng Việt cho vui...letmebe và Kanynguyen, cả 2 rất tự nhiên, nói rất nhiều...3 chúng tôi gần bằng tuổi nhau nên làm quen khá dễ dàng...
Follow to those questions given by Dirosemimi, our group discussed one by one .. kanynguyen satisfies with his life about 85%, but letmebe and me, just average 60%...maybe kany is doing better than us. Talked about the ***uality, quite funny...coz kany said man has to join military but the woman doesn''''''''t..On the other hand, gatihon told him: you guys need to join military for 2 years, but woman has to use Whisper every month for whole of their life ...So...which one is the worse ?
so man and woman...not thing is worse than the other.
we really had a great time...Around 11h15 PM, 2 people joined us but...but one had broken micro, so he only listened to us without saying back. And the other has working micro but the quality of that one is not good..hopefully they can fix thoise items next time...and be well-prepared.
In this case, less people but we still had great online meeting...we can exchange your ideas, catch others'''''''' opinions..wonderful time to meet new friend.
Today, Gatihon is in bad mood...so can''''''''t make a funny report...
P/s: Please check your micro before the meeting started, coz it make you convenient to join with us...Hopefully...see you next online meeting





Được dirosemimi sửa chữa / chuyển vào 12:42 ngày 30/04/2006

Your group had 5 people while our group only had 3. Anyway, we did have some interesting conversations. Special thank to Ms Dimi for being very friendly and helpful. Hope we''ll get a full group next time

Yes, we had an interesting conversation. Gatihon and Letbeme are so nice. Hope that we will have more friends in the next online meeting.
Thanks SEC.

REPORT OF THE 2ND GROUP: KING67, VI_CAM, and DIMI
We really had great time of discussion, sharing, practising, study...together.
In fact, we sometimes had 4 members in our group. GoBlue joined us in about 10 minutes, finishing his self-introduction and was disconnected due to his bad internet connection.
We used English 100% and focused exclusively on the interesting topic.
Vi_cam is kind of extremely optimistic man while he said that he satisfies with his current life nearly 90 percent. Wow...I could not conceal my envy of him. How happy he is !!! He confided to us that he has a lot of close friends and good friends (you can also find more information on his YIM.360 blogs )
King67 also satisfies with what he has. However, he is definitely less optimistic than Vi_cam with 50% pleased with his life.
Dimi''''s percentage of life satisfaction is 65. Not low...not high !
The meeting is hotter when we discuss the question " Do you want to change your ***uality if you have a chance to do that? ". Interestingly, we all want to be ourselves and do not desire to change anything. Vi_cam and King67 are such wonderful men. They want to be men as they want to be responsible for feeding their family. In ad***ion, they have more freedom ( need to note that they do not want to have extramarital relations with anybody), more power,etc. They are happy to be men and be a real men Dimi also wants to be a woman because she likes to be small with her ideal man and has the right to go shopping and be "Ms.8 " with friends.
Regarding the suggestion " would you like to change your nationality?". Both King67 and Vi_cam wish to be born and grown up in the US to have better education and more opportunity to work and succeed. Dimi still wants to be Vietnamese as she appreciate for what Vietnam brings to her and love this country a lot.
Ah...King67 and Vi_cam especially satisfy with their single life as they have a lot of things to do, to care about and..." friends are very important to me and they are enough for me to be happy", Vi_cam said. It is totally different from Letmebe and Nonick''''s opinions. Letmebe is complaining about not having g/f all the time and Mr. Nonick is always late in SEC online meetings as he is busy with "chở bạn gái đi vòng vòng", hehe...
*****m up, it is really an interesting discussion overwhelmed with laughters and friendship. Skype works quite well. SEC online meeting-a good activity of our club.
Được dirosemimi sửa chữa / chuyển vào 00:44 ngày 16/04/2006

To be honest I did not expect the online meeting would have been done that well! Thanks to everyone that has come to share and discuss especially Dimi and Gatihon; You guys had to do extra work (preparing and writing reports).
I had wonderful conversations with Dimi, King67. For, we are almost the same old of age and mature (or getting there soon ), the interesting given topics were discussed openly.
I''m sorry for those who could not make it to the meeting and looking forward to seeing more members and groups on the chat next week!

3rd OnSpeakDo women still have too heavy a burden in their day to day life?
Group 1: King, Sillyboy, Kany, giandi_xinhxinh, Dimi
First, I''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''d like to apologize for coming late. Thank you so much for your patience and understanding.
We had a very fun and interesting conversation even though the host did a sloppy job. Thanks guys for picking me up
First, we had 5 people in our group. YAY, that''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s a good sign. Another person wanted to join in but we were almost done so we had to deny his request. Please come early next time to secure a spot
Also, giandi_xinhxinh''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s mic was broken so she could only hear us talking. It would be so great if we could hear her ideas.
Okay, so much for the Blah blah blah, let''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s move on to the real stuff. I met 2 new members today, sillyboy and kany. Tell you what, these two guys are extremely nice people and I''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''m so happy to have a chance to talk to them.
Ok, enough of that. Now let''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s get into the meat of the meeting. I''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''m seriously this time.
We have a very interesting topic this week, regarding women today and how they handle the housework. All members seemed to agree to the fact that women today are treated much better than their previous generations. However, like bro kany mentioned (or is this sillyboy? I forgot ), Vietnamese is still influenced by the feudal system, there is still stereotype that men are superior to women. They are the bread-winners, ones who worked to feed the family. Well, this is not necessary true since we know many women are in the work force today, and they can earn money to take care of their family too.
An opinion praises the politeness and galant in Western men. They always seem to dress nicely, ask the women to go to fancy restaurants, send them flowers and gifts. That makes us Vietnamese men look bad, doesn''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t it? Well, we don''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t need that. We win the women''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s hearts by our real feeling, our own hearts. We don''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t need those fancy, formal stuff, right guys?.
Okay, let''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s get back to the topic For the solution to help women balance work and family responsibility. Bro Kany said that women should marry the ones they love; for that men who love their wives would do the housework to lessen the women''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s burden. There is another idea suggesting that women should take all the opportunities in working and studying before getting married. After they get married, women can reduce their working hours to have more time to spend with their families.
Well, I a little bit disagree with that. If women reduce their workload after getting married, they would never maximize their full potential; they would never reach to the highest possible positions. That would create a bigger gap between men and women in potential achievement. I think there should be openning communication between the couples. Women should talk to their husbands about the stress and difficulties they have in their jobs. Men who love their wives would understand the hardship their wives go through and would be happily to share the housework.
I think the problem with Vietnamese women is their endurance. They just take all the work and do not say anything to their husbands. I don''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t know what about other women, but that''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s how my mom and my two sisters do. Well, they shouldn''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t. SPEAK UP LADIES. Tell the men what you think, how you feel. Threaten them for a divorce if they don''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t start washing those dirty dishes leaving on the sink two weeks ago. Well, I may sound a little bit radical but I think it works.
Sillyboy was concerned a lot about " women should marry men loves them or ones they love ". Our group did not have enough time to discuss this issue (we begans at 9:30pm and ended at 10:50pm, it went past the fixed hour), so Sillyboy is still waiting for King and Kany ''''''''s answers (He especially wanted to know King and Kany''''''''s opinions).
Jeez, I think I went off topic again. Forgive me please. Anyway, I personally had a great time today. Thank you everyone and I look forward for another fun meeting next Friday.
Adios,
King
Được dirosemimi sửa chữa / chuyển vào 12:43 ngày 30/04/2006

[red]4th OnSpeak[/red]
Topic: YOUR MOST FAVORITE FILM
Group #3: gatihon, sillyboy, kany
First, I was forced to be host today hix. I?Tm kidding. I think being a host is very interesting, coz you will have more chances to speak and interview other members. I think SEC should let each member to be host in turn in every week.
We had 3 members in our group. We knew one another before, so we didn?Tt have to introduce again. Oh, I forgot, Dimi joined our group when we were discussing question 3. She was late today because she had a party with her colleage. Ok, no problem, hope to see Dimi next week ?oon timê?. Now, let?Ts roll up your sleeves to read my ?obananâ? report. Hehe
Following today topic?Ts questions, we had a great time of discussion, sharing our opinions about films. With the first question, sillyboy said that he loves ?oCondor herô?, a film is made in ? Kim Dung . Yes, it is a Kim Dung?Ts novel. He said that he loves that film because of its romantic love story of Duong Hoa and Tieu Long Nu. He also loves its kung-fu fighting scences where they ?ofight and block? (a new pharse from gatihon), with sounds like ? ?ohự, bụp, keng keng, ? ui dzâ? . Gatihon said that she loves ?oAir Force 1?, an action film (like us, guys). She likes the performance of Harrison Ford, he is really a hero in that film. Maybe her admiration for H.Ford made her loved that film. The most favaorite film of mine is ?oEnemy at the gatê?, a film about the World War II. I love it because it has a dramatic script. If you like war category, it is worth for you to see that film.
Yes, all of us have our most favorite film. Somehow, we are deeply impressed by an handsome actor, an attractive actress or an exciting script, all of them make us love movie, a necessary ?ospirit food? for us.
Continue to the next question, ?oWhich criteria is the most important factor making you see a film??, gatihon and silly boy said that they usually choose films with famous actor/actress to see. Moreover, director of film is one of features that gatihon often consider. I have another opinion, that is the script of film because I believe that famous actors/actress is not a key to make a good film, there are a lot of involved elements, and one of them is the script. For example, with the good script in ?oCondor Herô? or ?oGone with the wind? film, it makes us ?odrunk?. After you see the film, you go to bed, put your hand (1 hand or 2 hands, it?Ts up to you ) on your forehead and imagine the scenes in film, think about the film?Ts content. Yes, that is the feeling I believe that you have experienced.
With question 4, 5 and 6, I didn?Tt concentrate on the disccusion because my boss called me to tell an emergency problem. I?Tm very sorry for this problem. But I heard sillyboy said that he usually sees films everydays. That sounds good but I forgot to ask him ?oIs it a Korean film on TV??
We all agreed that movies always help us to relax after hard-working days, make us laugh , cry and scare. In my opinion, I think that movie likes a book, when you are seeing a film, like you are reading a book, it will teach you a lot of useful things about the world around us, teach us what should we do, teach us the way we love ?
Yes, that?Ts the reason make us ? love movies, the seventh art ?oof the world? (oh, sorry, I was impressed by ?oThe eighth wonder of the world, King Kong?, hehe.
My skype didn?Tt work well, but it was not a big problem, the discussion ended up with nice.
To Dimi: tell you the truth, I think this topic is not easy for us to speak. For example, when I tell the film that another member doesn?Tt know it, he/she doesn?Tt know how to speak. That is not good. I hope that you will give us more interesting topic like the one on April 21. Thanks.
Được dirosemimi sửa chữa / chuyển vào 12:45 ngày 30/04/2006

That is such a well-written piece of writing bro Kany. Excellent job! I wish you could have been in my group, ''cuz I also like those 2 movies you talked about, "Enemy at the Gate" and "KingKong".
Anyway, group #1 has four members: me, MyNuong, HuyViet, and GianDi_XinhXinh. I will keep this report short since MyNuong will do some add-on to it.
MyNuong''s favorite movie is After the Match. It was made by the Dutch so I guess no one else heard about this movie before. However, according to what MyNuong described, it seemed to be a great movie. It taught many fundamental lessons about life like being yourself and not giving up (am I correct )
Me and HuyViet both share a same common, we both like Kim Dung''s movies. His favorite one is Anh Hung Xa Dieu and mine is Thien Long Bat Bo . We like the kungfu movies because of the scripts were written by Kim Dung, nice fighting graphics, and of course... the pretty actresses (Awwwee, Luu Diec Phi, I''ll dream of you tonight)
At the end of the meeting, giandi_xinhxinh came up with a very interesting topic, regarding young couples making out in the cinema in SaiGon these days. Me and MyNuong digust at that. HuyViet said he''d find another seat and ignore them. Giandi_xinhxinh thinks it''s ok as long as the couples don''t go too far.
I''ll leave the rest of the report for MyNuong to fill up.

After reading the report from King, I think it is nearly full-filled. I just want to add somethings. Because my mind is not very excellent so that I cannot remember clearly about the ideas from our members. It must have mistakes in my report. So forgive me if I am wrong.
Firstly, King thinks that watching movie is not only for fun, but also for knowledge. Sometimes we should think about the message from movies. So depending on the type of movie, we can learn or relax when we follow a movie, am I right, King?. To me, I agree with him in some aspects but I almost think that we can learn useful lessons from every movies because they contain the meanings about life that we maynot know. Viet said that he watched movie just for fun and for relaxing, right?.( i hope so).
Secondly, we talked about what makes movie become famous, beautiful actress and actor? famous director?....I think a movie can be popular depends much on the meaning. But you can keep your ideas if you think good actors can bring the movie to the audiences because I remember it is the same thinking from one guy in my group but I cannot write his name( I forgot).
And the last minutes, we said "goodbye and good night", hehehehe.
Thank you so much for your kindness when you read this report with my terrible writting. And please remember I cannot be a host.
One again, thank you and have an interesting holiday with your family and your friends!

Hi everyone, sorry for this late post reporting our discussion.
Our group (I don''t remember what number it was!) had three members only. However, PhanThanhHien could not participate much in the discussion because he was using the computer in an internet cafe. I will also keep this short.
Only I (Vy Cam) and Letmebe were in the group so we ended the conversation pretty quickly for I was very busy with my school works. Just a bit about PhanThanhHien, a new member, he sounded pretty young though I don''t know his age. He seemed to have a problem understanding us. We either talked too fast or he was not used to chatting in English so he left very early after the introduction.
Letmebe likes American movies because the quality of those is good. He especially is interested in action movies. Although when he goes out with his girlfriend he would prefer romantic ones. He told me that he goes to the movie a couple times a month with his friends. The latest movie he saw was a Korean one, Daisy, I heard it''s a good one but very sad. Another kind of love drama you usually see in Korean films. Letmebe likes movies but does not consider it to be very important to his life ''cause he has other stuff to care about and that is more important such as career, family and friends.
My interest in movies is quiet different from letmebes''. I watch lots of funny movies such as "Meet the Fockers", "Cheaper by the dozenâ? ... Other types that are in my interest are musical, documentary movies. I have many DVDs from the National Geographic and Discovery channels. Those are mostly about the wildlife all around the world. Some classically musical movies that are in my collection are "Chicago" (***y ladies and wonderful music + dancing), "Mouline Rouge", "Billy Eliotâ? ... I shared the same opinion with Letmebe when movies don''t come to any important parts of my life. They are for fun, relaxing and reference too.
I do hope the next time more people can come to my chat and make the talk more exciting (Both male and female should be better)