*** stuff

Hey em sgh, coolbiz and satori, I didn''''t say that those who cannot abstain from *** for such a long time are bad guys, nor did I say that doing so is a good suggestion. What I want to ask about is whether somebody can do so without behaving aberrantly. ***, I think, is kind of daily food to those who once had it. No one starve over a long period of time. With ***, there''''s the same story. But some of my female friends say that the reasons why he can refrain from *** for such a long time is perhaps he is physically abnormal or he masturbates himself! Masturbation is no evil either, so it may be a good solution to those who have stubborn views on ***, thinking of it as something bad if it involves no love.
Your ideas???
You hear that? That is the sound of inevitability...
Được captor_of_sin sửa chữa / chuyển vào 17:44 ngày 10/04/2004

As fas as i am concerned, boys mastubate daily even when they do not have to abstain from ***. It is not a substitue part. It is a spare part
thoáng em đến như trăng mùa cũ...thoáng em đến câu thơ vừa chữ...thoáng em đến ngỡ như muôn trùng...thoáng em ghé như hoa phù dung...đã chia sớt cho ta lửa ấm...đã nuôi lớn trái tim lặng câm...từ em qua có đêm bình yên...vì em đấy mà ra thiêng liêng... 

I got it. You prefer knowing real experiences to seeing old lessons. It''s interesting.
I haven''t got any experience on ***, ''cuz I''m too young for it. I just can tell you some thing like "theory", not " experiential lessons ".
You''ve just mention about masturbation, as a way to explain how a boy can live without *** for quite a long time, rite?^_^ As I read from newspaper and magazines, it''s normal and somehow helpful if there''s a limit in using it. Many men consider masturbating a good solution to their con***ions at some time. But many other men utilize it, ''cuz they feel great when doing it. It isn''t good. Nothing is good when you pass the limit.
So, don''t feel embarassed if you have ever masturbated ''cuz it is normal, natural and just a human instinct, but remember to limit it. That''s all I can say about masturbation.

U 3 here appear to be very experienced !!! I would like to emphasize once more time , since many other mods in this forum have found the topic very sensitive and a little inapproriate ! Thus , pplz keep it in the acceptable limit !
Mentioning masturbation is also very sensitive !!
I hope U understand and help me about this problem !!
anyway , thanks for ur contribution to building this forum

OK, OK, keep your cool, Coolbiz! I''m sorry about that. It''s just because I think it''s not sensitive at all. By contrast, it''s educational ''coz people have recently considered incorparating *** education into high school curricula. That''s why I feel it''s not a taboo. So sorry!
To Satori, hi..hi... how young is too young for ***??? Tell me please??? If you''re 18 upwards, you should be independent, thus in a positon to take care of yourself, decide everything for yourself and do whatever you want for yourself, including ***. If you''re still a high school student below 18, I''m not telling you to do so, but if you''re already a freshman, you can do what you like. If you don''t like ***, you won''t do it. If you like it, just do it. Anyway it''s your life, not others'', isn''t it???
Last but not least, Satori, I like your English!

So sorry coolbiz and other mods if my replies in this topic are considered "sensitive".... This isn''''t related to "experienced" too (ya know... this word can be misunderstood). The fact is, I don''t really know which rate is OK for this... Which things I can say and which I can''t?
So... captor_of_sin, if there''s something too sensitive, plz pm to us rather than discuss all problems here  Of course we still can talk about this topic here, but... all forums have the rules for us to follow, and we should follow them, rite?^_^ Ah, tks for your enjoying my English, though it''s kinda of simple English. (as all of you can see, there is no strange or new words in my posts &nbsp
I''m not saying that this is a secret thing to talk about and to discuss on, but if there is something sensitive, private contact is better.
Best wishes ^_^
 
 
Được Satori sửa chữa / chuyển vào 12:35 ngày 12/04/2004

I just said again to remind U , U 2 can go ahead since urs are still in " that limit " .
We are also old and mature enough to talk about that !!
Ur writings are very cool , Satori , they make me proud of having a Secretary like U !! The very first need is to make others understand , not to show ur new and rich archive of vocabularies , it will be very funny when there is no sense in feedbacks !!
Keep going and enjoy ur topic !!
Được coolbiz sửa chữa / chuyển vào 18:18 ngày 12/04/2004

Hi Coolbiz, we sensed that you were indicative of something about us, me or sgh, that you don''t like, to be sure.
When we come here, we aim at nothing but to share our English with other members, this being done through discussion of pressing issues of today''s society.
As a mod, do you really think that it is very useful to still adopt a passive approach to promoting English learning in this forum? Life is complicated that contains many issues. How can you expect our forum to liven up itself if you think that everything should be just as serious as something like news in Nhân Dân newspaper??? If you ever studied Russian, you''d notice that in all of the textbooks used to teach us Vietnamese the language of Russian, the topics are all the boring. In each and every page, we can easily see something like "Busha have a beautiful house. He goes to work everyday by bus. The town where he''s living is very beautiful. LIfe is so beautiful, vv...". In these books, everything''s perfect and there''s no problem of any kind. But if you ever have a look at Streamline English, Headway, etc.., you not only see beautiful life but you also see crimes, drug problems, *** problems, unemployment, etc. And as a city boy, you must know what is the line between the approach to learning in the textbooks on Russian language and that in the textbooks on English imported from the likes of Cambridge or the USA. Reason: All students find it MUCH, MUCH more interesting to learn something as if in real life, i.e. issues raised in books similar to those in life.
What''s more, I don''t believe that a mod really devoted to helping others learn English shouldn''t encourage the members to use new and varied vocabulary, because only by trying and practicing new things can a person master them. How can we expect a person to use just "how are you?" for all the time?? This can be like "how''re you doin''??", "how is it going???". So I don''t see anything wrong with using new and varied vocabulary. It''s not a show-off at all. It''s a real practice.
Hope you understand, ''cause I''m a learner!
 

Tks coolbiz, so let me keep on participating in this topic  
I hope this topic and many other topics in our box will develop more. I (somehow^_^) know the rules, and I won''t break them (if I can ).
So captor_of_sin and sgh, I wanna ask you this question.
You both seemed to be very positive and modern in your thinking. captor said that it was natural to folllow our wantings. I think it''s cool to live as we want. But there is a problem here.
What will you think if someday you know that your luver ( just an example) had an intercourse with her ex-luver? Will you also say " Oh, it''s natural, my darling, it''s normal!" or you''ll feel bad and think that she doesn''t deserved your love?
I myself feel very hard if I''m in that case. There are 2 conflicting emotions in me:1)  I love her and I can sympathize with her. 2) I love her now, but I can''t stand whenever I remember that my sweetie used to do it with another man.
Tell me what you think, true to your heart ^_^

Hi Satori, if I were in that situation when I was still keeping faith with her, I wouldn''t be able to stand that unfaithfulness. However, if I was doing the same thing as she, I would feel pretty fine, ''coz I was doing sth wroing as well. When the couple were together, they should quench their desire and keep their faith. If one went out to seek ***, the other wouldn''t accept that.
Coolbiz and Satori, you both didn''t get me right in this discussion. I didn''t favor women gettning unfaithful at all. What I was discussing in the posts is "Should we give women the same treatment as men when they seek *** as men do?". That''s all! In our society, when a man sleeps with another woman, he''s often forgiven for the wrongdoing. But when a woman does the same thing, she''d be labeled a floozy! That''s unfair!
See my point???