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Why Kosovo?by PIF Post Date : Thursday, Nov 25th, 1999 at 10:13 am
One of the main purposes of the Kosovo war is to stabilize Russia.Another purpose is Kosovo is one of the two last remaining sources of undeveloped natural resources.
The Voice of Russia radio program reported on Apr. 18, 1999 that NATO had lost over 40 planes and 90 airmen between March 24 and April 15. The report said Yugoslav and Russian military sources said NATO had also lost 120 cruise missiles to Yugoslav defenses.
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Details of the attack of Yugoslav aircraft on Tuzla airport in Bosnia-Herzegovina on April 18, 1999The Tuzla airport in Bosnia-Herzegovina (map) is used by NATO aircraft for emergency landings, as well as by NATO special rescue helicopters. The airport was also used by NATO SFOR troops for operations in Bosnia-Herzegovina
On April 18, 1999 at 13:30 local time a strike force of nine Yugoslavian aircraft, consisting of one G-4 Super Galeb strike aircraft, six J-22 Orao strike aircraft, and two MiG-21 fighters, conducted a bombing run against the Tuzla airport. The attack was organized unofficially on the initiative of the Yugoslavian pilots involved. The strike was led by Major Stevan Zivojin Gavrilovic of the Yugoslavian Air Force, flying a G-4 Super Galeb and organized by Lt. Colonel Mihaljo V. from Kragujevac, flying one of the Oraos. The strike was initiated from the Ponikve airbase near the town of Uzice (map), approximately 120km away from Tuzla. The group of Yugoslav aircraft followed a route along the border between Yugoslavia and Bosnia-Herzegovina at an altitude of 800m and crossed the border somewhere between the towns of Bratunac and Zvornik.
Several minutes before the attack the Ponikve base informed the strike group that they were spotted by NATO forces and the strike group was advised to discontinue its operation.  The suggestion was disregarded and the strike group proceeded with the planned attack. The Yugoslavian aircraft did not encounter any air or ground opposition during their approach to the Tuzla airport. The main radar at the Tuzla airport was not operational due to a technical malfunction (or, according to other sources, due to a diversion). It was known that beside a several damaged NATO aircraft and rescue helicopters, a group of ad***ional 10 NATO aircraft arrived to the Tuzla airport for operations against Yugoslavia, which prompted the improvised strike by Yugoslavian planes.
A group of four NATO aircraft were detected at the far end of the Tuzla airport, preparing for takeoff. The lead G-4 released its bombs at the group of several damaged NATO planes positioned at the right side of the runway and immediately turned his aircraft back toward the border. Three Oraos did the same, while the three remaining Oraos conducted a precision strike. The two MiG-21s were to provide the strike group with air cover during the withdrawal, in case any of the NATO planes managed to take off.
The Orao piloted by Lt. Colonel Mihaljo V. was targeted and destroyed by a NATO SAM. One of the MiG-21s, piloted by Major Zeljko M. from Novi Sad, was hit by a SAM as well, but the pilot managed to land the aircraft 10km from Ponikve airbase. NATO lost 17 aircraft and three rescue helicopters on the ground. However, it is not known how many of those 17 aircraft were operational prior to the strike (as was mentioned earlier, NATO aircraft used the Tuzla airport for emergency landings.)
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VenikApril 30, 1999
P.S. This information comes from private sources, details about which I cannot reveal. You have a choice of either taking this information seriously or disregarding it completely. It is totally up to you. I just want to stress that this information wouldn''t have made it on my web site if I did not think that it was accurate.
NEW: Several people, who have either friends or relatives living in Tuzla, have e-mailed me saying that a series of loud explosions were heard coming from the Tuzla airport at the reported time of the attack.
NEW: According to an ITAR-TASS review of the article published by the Foreign Military Review magazine of the Russian Defense Ministry, Yugoslav aviation prevented the use of American AH-64 Apache attack helicopters during the Kosovo conflict. The "NATO Losses in the War with Yugoslavia" article, the Foreign Military Review writes: "... the biggest sensation was the number of troops lost by NATO. Not just NATO pilots were killed in Yugoslavia, but also search-and-rescue troops that were tasked with locating downed pilots. Yugoslav air defenses have shot down no less than five NATO helicopters, which resulted in deaths of about 100 troops of the Alliance."
According to the Foreign Military Review, the reason why Pentagon did not use Apaches in Kosovo "...had nothing to do with technical problems with the helicopters or insufficient training of their flight crews, as was often stated by NATO officials. The only reason was the April 26 attack carried out by Yugoslav "Galeb" fighters against "Rinas" airport located near Albania''s capital of Tirana, where the Apaches were based. That day two groups of these light helicopters were destroyed and over 10  helicopters were damaged."
A similar operation was carried out by Yugoslav AF on April 18 against the airport in Tuzla, Bosnia, used as an emergency landing site for NATO aircraft. As the result of this attack some fifteen NATO aircraft have been destroyed on the ground. The Foreign Military Review writes: "Despite the fact that American aircraft dominated NATO operations, they weren''t the only aircraft shot down by Yugoslav air defenses.  Among the destroyed aircraft were five German "Tornadoes," several British "Harriers''" two French "Mirages," Belgian, Dutch, and Canadian aircraft. On June 7 the USAF lost a B-52 strategic bomber, while on May 20 a B-2A "Spirit" was shot down." http://www.aeronautics.ru/tuzlaattack01.htm
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  The situation in Belgrade is stabilising. We now constantly have electricity and water and things are starting to look brighter. The strawberry and cherry prices have dropped from 30 Din to 15 Din in 3 days so now we can afford something besides onions and green salad.
  People are looking hopefully at the peace talks. Even the kids from the neighborhood have realised that war isn''t much fun.
  No one will ever know how many albanians were killed by YU army, police and paramilitary units in Kosovo and Metohija. I heard many bloody stories and braggings about burned and bombed down villages. The usual recipy is to bomb the village to the ground and then blame it on NATO. I heard stories from Serbs who left Pristina and came to Belgrade that when the troops surrounded the city, they surrounded albanian houses one by one and entered them. They heard shots and cries from inside and they didn''t see any albanians come out alive, but they mostly didn''t stick around such places long enough to be sure.
The NATO and the Yu army are covering up most of each others losses. NATO have hit several barracks in the first days of the bombing while the troops were still in them. No one published a thing. They all know that. One of those barracks was in Belgrade. The Yu high command is trying to reduce official NATO air losses to a minimum, and it publishes info only on those planes that have been seen to crash.I saw a site of some russian claiming that Yu airforce made an air-raid on Tuzla airport in Bosnia in broad daylight, destroying NATO aircraft on the ground.
The yugo army is constantly entering albanian territory, trying to push the KLA/NATO forces and the refugees deeper into Albania.
About the peace concerts at Belgrade''s Republic square and at Branko''s bridge, the musical bands were ORDERED to attend those or else the music houses, which are all controlled by milosevic''s gang would erase all their original records and CD''s.Also, I saw an incredible number of skinheads attending them, some of which wanted to beat me because I was wearing an antiwar t-shirt, but their leader stopped them.
Same goes for the "Spontaneous gatherings of citizens" on the bridges. Most of those people come there because they were told they would be sacked from their jobs if they didn''t. The rest come because they want to show themselves as loyal slaves to the master.http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9905/msg00192.html

Yugoslav Air Force Grounded "Apaches," Not Mechanical Trouble According to an ITAR-TASS review of the article published by the Foreign Military Review magazine of the Russian Defense Ministry, Yugoslav aviation prevented the use of American AH-64 Apache attack helicopters during the Kosovo conflict. The "NATO Losses in the War with Yugoslavia" article, the Foreign Military Review writes "... the biggest sensation was the number of troops lost by NATO. Not just NATO pilots were killed in Yugoslavia, but also search-and-rescue troops that were tasked with locating downed pilots. Yugoslav air defenses have shot down no less than five NATO helicopters, which (alone) resulted in deaths of about 100 troops of the Alliance." According to the Foreign Military Review, the reason why Pentagon did not use Apaches in Kosovo "...had nothing to do with technical problems with the helicopters or insufficient training of their flight crews, as was often stated by NATO officials. The only reason was the April 26, 1999 attack carried out by Yugoslav "Galeb" fighters against "Rinas" airport located near Albania''s capital of Tirana, where the Apaches were based. That day two groups of these light helicopters were destroyed and over 10 helicopters were damaged." A similar operation was carried out by Yugoslav AF on April 18 against the airport in Tuzla, Bosnia, used as an emergency landing site for NATO aircraft. As the result of this attack some 15 NATO aircraft were destroyed on the ground. The Foreign Military Review writes: "Despite the fact that American aircraft dominated NATO operations, they weren''t the only aircraft shot down by Yugoslav air defenses. Among the destroyed aircraft were five German "Tornadoes," several British "Harriers''" two French "Mirages," Belgian, Dutch, and Canadian aircraft. On June 7 the USAF lost a B-52 strategic bomber, while on May 20 a B-2A "Spirit" was shot down." Information regarding the B-52 loss comes as a surprise to me. I have seen a brief eyewitness report regarding this incident, but it was never mentioned in press or on the NATO losses list on my site. Looking at the eyewitness report listing compiled by aviation enthusiasts in Yugoslavia, we can find the following entry (#381) June 7, between 012 and 040, area between Slankamen and Indjija, One large bomber (most probably B-52) was shot down. Aircraft exploded after a direct SAM hit. Crew killed." Venik, Philadelphia, April 21, 2000, www.aeronautics.ru (the previous location at http://way.to/venik is also working.
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According to a March 25, 2000, article published by the ITAR-TASS news agency, Russian GRU (Main Intelligence Directorate) sources report that during the Operation "Allied Force" NATO''s air forces sustained losses considerably higher than is officially acknowledged by NATO command. According to GRU information, NATO lost three F-117A stealth bombers, and at least 40 other combat planes, and over 1000 cruise missiles.
So far NATO officials acknowledged losing three combat planes (the USAF F-117A on March 27, the USMC AV-8B Harrier on May 1, and the F-16CG-40-CF on May 2), two attack helicopters (AH-64 Apache on April 26 and another Apache on May 5), between 30 and 32 unmanned reconnaissance vehicles, including at least 16 American, 7 German, and 5 French UAVs. Interestingly enough NATO acknowledged all of the UAV losses mentioned by Yugoslav military officials - 30 - and, perhaps, even more.
Official NATO reports and statements made by various NATO officials indicate that about 10 NATO planes made emergency landings. Two F-117As sustained extensive damage (the F-117A 86-0837 was damaged on April 21 during landing; and another F-117A lost a part of its tail section due to a nearby SA-3 SAM explosion). An RAF C-130K Hercules transport plane crashed on June 11 in Albania. The aircraft was delivering a British SAS unit that was trying to beat Russian paratroopers to the Slatina base. The US Army OH-58 combat reconnaissance helicopter crashed on May 26 in Bosnia.
According to the information from unofficial Yugoslav military sources, NATO''s final assessment of its aircraft losses during the operation "Allied Force" indicates that some 61 aircraft have been destroyed,  53 aircraft were damaged beyond repair or it is not cost-effective to repair them, 57 aircraft have sustained repairable combat damage. A total of 171 NATO aircraft were hit by Yugoslav defenses during the war.
According to Yugoslav army officials, NATO lost 61 planes, 7 helicopters, 30 UAVs, and 238 cruise missiles. These numbers include only those NATO aircraft that crashed inside Yugoslavia. Distribution of aircraft kills among various units and branches of the Yugoslav Armed Forces is as follows: 3rd Army: 34 planes, 5 helicopters, 25 UAVs and 52 cruise missiles (according to an official statement by General Nebojsa Pavkovic, commander of the 3rd Army, on June 12, 1999); Navy: 3 planes, 3 UAVs and over 5 cruise missiles (from an official statement by the FRY Navy Commander, Milan Zec, June 10, 1999); 2nd Army: 24 planes, 2 helicopters, 2 UAVs (reported by Major General Spasoje Smiljanic in his interview to Politika newspaper at the end of April), 30 cruise missiles; 1st Army: 6 planes, 129 cruise missiles (reported by General Ninoslav Krstic in his interview for the "Vojska" magazine on May 24, 1999.) If you add up these numbers, provided by various Yugoslav military officials, you will see that the number of planes reported to have been shot down is 67 and not 61 as the official report by Gen. Dragoljub Ojdanic states. And here''s why:
On June 17, 1999, Gen. Spasoje Smiljanic, then commander of Yugoslav Air Force and Air Defense (RV i PVO), announced that "the Yugoslav Air Force and Air Defence units have downed 36 airplanes, 42 cruise missiles, nine UAVs and two helicopters." It is important to keep in mind, however, that RV i PVO air defense units do not include low-level army air defenses or naval air defenses, such as man-portable SAMs and some AAAs. The total number planes shot down by RV i PVO and by various air defense units outside of RV i PVO command comes to 61 planes, 7 helicopters, 30 UAVs and 238 cruise missiles according to Gen. Ojdanic. However, these figures only include those NATO aircraft that crashed inside Yugoslavia. In some of the earlier reports mentioned above Yugoslav military commanders included NATO aircraft that crashed outside Yugoslavia.
Several new pieces of destroyed NATO hardware were added to the Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum''s exhibit on March 24 to commemorate one year since the beginning of NATO''s aggression against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Currently the museum''s exhibit includes over 1500 fragments of NATO''s military hardware. The museum''s curator, Cedomir Janjic, announced that more destroyed NATO weapons will be soon added to the collection in a new wing of the museum dedicated to the war with NATO.
In an interview to the Associated Press Yugoslavia''s Minister for Science and Development, Cedomir Mirkovic, said "It is truly amazing how many aircraft and drones were downed with the relatively modest and primitive equipment..." Mirkovic refutes Western claims that Yugoslav air defense downed only two planes. "We shall prove we have more," he said, without elaborating.
In February British press was discussing sharp shortage of operational aircraft experienced by the Royal Air Force. The news first appeared in the January 23, 2000, Hundreds of Crippled Jets put RAF in Crisis article from The Observer, by Antony Barnet. In particular, the article, based on the Observer''s own investigation, outlines the following problems with the RAF:
"Two out of three of the UK''s 186 fleet of Tornado bombers are grounded;
Fewer than 40 per cent of other frontline aircraft, such as Harriers and Jaguars, are ready to fly at short notice;
The Ministry of Defence has spent almost é^1 billion developing a laser-guided bombing system that does not work properly;
There is shortage of nearly 20 per cent of junior officer fast jet pilots and the RAF is having a severe problem in retaining trained pilots;"
Two out of three British Tornadoes that are grounded comes to a rather substantial number: 124 Tornado strike aircraft are not operational. The crisis begun developing following the Operation "Desert Storm" in Iraq, but it really took off since the Operation "Allied Force" against Yugoslavia. As far as I know only four NATO Tornado aircraft were shot down during the conflict based on media reports. Two Luftwaffe strike aircraft were shot down on March 26-27. The other two Tornadoes were shot down on April 15 and May 26. It was not reported whether these aircraft were German or British.
The fact is that most of RAF''s strike aircraft are out of order for a variety of reasons. I do not have enough information to draw any definitive conclusions. However, I know enough to say that 124 strategically - important strike aircraft are not grounded for no reason. NA*****stained significant losses. An even greater number of aircraft were damaged not only by ground fire but also by the intensity of operations and skipping on the required maintenance hours. After talking to several USAF aircraft mechanics, who participated in the "Allied Force", I can conclude that NATO aircraft were pushed to the limit and way beyond it. This is especially true for the USAF aircraft. One USAF aircraft mechanic who served at Aviano told me: "Two weeks - three weeks tops - and the "Allied Force" would have been over ''cause NATO would have ran out of working planes."
Trưch: http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/natolosses-review01.htm

truyền thông fương Tây đáng tinh như thế nào thì qua cuộc chiến Nga -Grudia là biết rồi nhưng quân đội Serbia làm được thế này,gây thiệt hại khủng khiếp cho Nato mà chỉ thiêt hại hơn 500 lính(đã công bố trong sách ,nếu thiếu thì hẳn người dân đã kiện cáo ầm),dù sao thế anỳ thì phải khâm fục người Serb thật,trừ con số người Serb bịa thêm (chắc chắn có bịa) thì thệt hại của Nato cũng là 1 con số đáng nể với đầy đủ mặt Mỹ,Pháp,Anh,Đức.Đề nghị post xác của những chiếc này để kiểm chứng độ xác thực thông tin (đến giờ đã chắc chắn có A10,hợp lý vì A10 cùng đẳng cấp với Su 25,cùng đối mặt với những lực lượng fòng không mạnh,Su 25 rụng thì A10 cũng fải rụng)

Bunny ca hay quá ạ. Thật ra thì chả có một cơ quan truyền thông đại chúng nào tường thuật chuyện tàng hình serbian cả và cũng chẳng có ai nói chuyện B-2 bị bắn rơi trừ công ty truyền thông Quạt Nga & Bóp Zú. Bạn biết không F-117 vì không phải tàng hình ( Bóp Zú nói thế) nên rơi xong chụp được hình. A-10 bán tàng hình nên rơi xong bay hơi còn cái vỏ động cơ. Còn chiếc B-2 siêu tàng hình nên sau khi rơi chụp hình mãi mà chả được. Hôm ấy em có bay đến xem mà. Sờ được biết là nó rơi nằm đấy mà chả thấy đâu cả. Lạ nhất là thằng giặc lái nghe tiếng rên trong ấy mà cũng chả thấy người. Siêu thật.
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he he, bác Bob Djurdjevic thật là dại! Đang yên ổn sinh sống và làm ăn Mỹ mà lại quay qua chống Mỹ. Sao bác không học tập đám xxx-kiều gì đó chỉ vì tư lợi bản thân mà sẵn sàng chà đạp lên nhân dân trong nức.
Bác dại quá bác ơi! Bác thì tổ chức biểu tình chống chiến tranh rồi lập trang web để mọi người có thể hiểu được bản chất "cao quí" của Mỹ và Nato, sự "sung sướng" của nhân dân bác trong chiến tranh. Chúng cũng giống bác, cũng biểu tình, cũng lập trang web nhưng là để kêu gọi chính quyền Mỹ cấm vận kinh tế cũng như không buôn bán với đất nước nơi chúng hay bố mẹ chúng sinh ra.
Tại sao bác không học thói vô liêm sỉ của chúng? Chỉ vì thù hằn và tư lợi cá nhân mà chúng sẵn sàng đẩy 80 tr dân quay lại cảnh đói khổ.
Thêm vào nữa, bác nên trách tại sao bố mẹ lại đặt tên mình là Bob Djurdjevic làm gì để một đám cả nam lẫn nữ tuy có học (đoán thế) nhưng vô văn hóa xuyên tạc tên bác thành Bóp zú.

Thế bản chất Nga ngố chắc cao quý hơn Mĩ và Nato. Có mỗi bài ca biểu tình ca nhiều thế. XXX, đã xem tận mắt chưa, đếm tận tay chưa. Nói cho hiểu nhá, ngoài 1 vài người còn thù ghét thì bây h hầu còn bận kiến tiền, kô rảnh đi để í chuyện trong nước đâu. Ngồi đấy mà kick động thù hằn, ngứa cả xxxx

KHÔNG KÍCH LẦN THỨ 2 VÀ THỨ 3: TẤN CÔNG SÂN BAY TIRANA NGÀY 13 & 26 THÁNG 4 NĂM 99
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?oCHẬP CHỜN NHƯ ****, CHÍCH NHƯ ONG?: THỌC MẠNH & ĐẤM MÓC
Sự lỳ lơm và liều lĩnh còn được thể hiện qua hai cuộc tấn công của KQ Serbia xuống các máy bay của Nato đậu tại sân bay Tirana, Albania. Nơi đây Nato là căn cứ của phi đội 12 máy bay trực thăng Apache nhằm hỗ trợ cho lữ đoàn Atlantic. Đây là lữ đoàn tập hợp 6,000 người tình nguyện Albnia, được huấn luyện bởi các chuyên gia quân sự Mỹ, nhằm phối hợp với quân khủng bố KLA tại Kosovo nhằm tấn công Serbia từ Albania. Tổng cộng tất cả khoảng 20,000 lính bao gồm chuyên gia và đặc nhiệm nước ngoài mà chủ yếu là người Mỹ.
Cuộc không kích chớp nhoáng vào Albania của KQ Serbia là vào ngày 13 tháng 4 năm 99 khi 4 máy bay Serbia tấn công một doanh trại đang xây dựng của lữ đoàn Atlantic gần Kamanica phía bắc Albania. 1 máy bay Apache bị tiêu diệt và gây thiệt hại nặng nề cho binh lính lữ đoàn Atlantic. Cuộc không kích được lập lại lần nữa vào ngày 5 tháng 5 năm 99 khi 3 máy bay Eagle J-22 Orao của Serbia không kích lữ đoàn Atlantic vài lần trong một khỏng thời gian ngắn.
Nhưng hành động nổi bật nhất phải kể đến là việc KQ Serbia không kích tiêu diệt các máy bay Apache của Nato đậu tại sân bay Tirana, Albania ngày 26 tháng 4 năm 99. Đây cũng là nhiệm vụ đầy thử thách và mạo hiểm khi máy bay của KQ Serbia phải bay từ sân bay Ponikve, Serbia tới Tirana, Albania với khoảng cách gần 1 giờ bay (54?T). Thời gian này là quá đủ cho các máy bay tiêm kích hiện đại-vượt trội cũng như AEW&C của Nato phát hiện và tấn công. Như thực tế đã xảy ra, nato đã không phát hiện ra máy bay của Serbia đang đến và kết quả là các máy bay Apache ở sân bay Tirana, Albania đã bị tiêu diệt.
Quay trở lại cuộc không kích, 4 máy bay Seagull G-4 cất cánh cùng lúc từ 2 sân bay khác nhau là Ponikve và Golubovci (gần Podgorica, Montenegro). 2 máy bay cất cánh từ Golubovci tới Tirana đầu tiên, mà không bị phát hiện, trút sự giận dữ (bom, rocket và đạn) xuống binh lính và các trực thăng Nato, lúc này đang hoàn tòan bất ngờ. 20?T sau, 2 máy bay xuất phát từ Ponikve cũng tới Tirana, cũng không bị phát hiện trên đường tới bởi chúng bay thấp xuyên qua các hẻm núi và men theo những rặng núi phía nam Serbia và Kosovo.
Trong 2 cuộc tấn công chớp nhoáng giật mình này, 4 máy bay Apache bị tiêu diệt. Tất cả 4 máy bay Seagull G-4 trở về một căn cứ khác an toàn. Thắng lợi về mặt chiến lược quan trọng nhất mà Serbia thu được qua cuộc tấn công này là nato không bao giờ sử dụng trực thăng Apache trong suốt cuộc chiến. Và dự định sử dụng lữ đoàn Atlantic để tấn công Serbia từ Albania không bao giờ thành hiện thực