TOEFL 16/10 AND MY STRATEGY. IS THIS GOOD?

First of all , let me sorry u if my English writting is too bad . I just want to keep writing by English to improve it. Hope all of u can understand what I will say:

Now, its time to thank u all who have posted many experience and knowledge in this English forum. It help me much in determining my strategy and hope that u can help me more by commanding is this good or bad

I will take the Toefl test this 16 october, it has about 3 months for preparation. Iõ?Tm work and cant spend more than 2 hours a day to learn English. I know its not enough (my grade now is just around 480 while my need score is over 600) and will spend more time when the test day is come. This is my strategy and i hope that u can help me to maximize it for the best result. Thanksõ?Ư

1.I have a class time on Saturday with Mr. Nghiem and I enjoy it. I think class just like an environment where I could reach people have the same target as me and knowing where I am in comparision with others. I need one more class time. I may try Ms. Vanõ?Ts class. What do u think?

2.Iõ?Tm always thinking Learning by myself is the best way. I need to have a strong mental and physical preparation. Every morning I have to jogging then telling myself my target is get above 600 in T score while learning .

3.May be the test will take place in the morning and its good for my biological clock get acquainte with this time. I will change my behaviour and spend time to learn English 1 hour every morning

4.I õ?~ve got some Toefl Cd and I will buy every CD Toefl in the market and self practice. Is this good some Cd list there?
a.Toefl 4 in 1(Longman)
b.Toefl Sample
c.Longman preparation course
d.Toefl mentor
e.Toefl explorer

5.I will use English-English dictionary as your recommend.

6.I will join an English club ( Thanks for the topic)?There is 3 club have suitable time for me :
a.Advance club 14h30-17h Sunday in Hang Quat
b.32 Le Ngoc Han 18h-20h Thursday
c.Dong da school Luong Dinh Cua 18h Saturday
Which is the best choice?

7.I will find English õ?" speaking friends. I have not many chance to practice English in my real life . What do u think to have a friend like me .
Wellcomes all of u to chat with me by Yahoo first ( its better if we talk in real after). We can help each other.
My Yahoo ID: doanrt

8.Itõ?Ts the best way if I have a native speaker friend. But I have not found the solution yet. Who can help me?

9.Read English as much as possible. I have tried some novels but havent found the simple one (donõ?Tt have too many complicated words). Anyone could recommend me this one?

10.I will watch CNN and HBO more. Sometimes Animal Planet and DWTV is good channel but I donõ?Tt think MTV can help us improve English.

Its quite long. Hope that you donõ?Tt feel sleepy with my bad ability in writing .
Thank u all for reading and thanks once more for helping me.

Hihi, gladly hi you!
Your E writing is quite good, but there are still some small mistakes I find. U can easily find them when U re-read your post. Do it by yourself! It''s better.
I will also take the TOEFL in the forthcoming time. I still have about 4 months - a not very long time to learn and revise all well. And now I am learning 0 hour / day. Oh, I think I will start learning in the next week. I need some plans and arrangements as well. I have no idea about maximizing your score, because I am in the same situation as yours. I only long us to help each other in this time.
Well, I am going to join Mr Nghiem''s Satuday class in the next week. I intended to join it last week but there was another class at that time that I couldn''t miss. My class will last from 2.30 pm to 5.00 pm. What about yours? Hope to see you in the same class I wonder if you are learning in the same class as me. Hehe. The world would become too small if it were true.
I agree with you. Learning by myself is the best. But, I have no experience in this work. We need someone have experience and he will show us how to...
I will add your nick on Y! to practise English speaking together Nice to meet your first.
About the native friends, you can write emails to some English natives. You can be their penpal. Make friends with them. Although there are still some persons not very enthusiastic to help you improve English, but almost them are very good to talk to, to exchange, to dispute. And when you write them emails, surely your English will get better and better. You should let they know that you are learning English and you need to improve your English so that they can help you as much as possible. Visit this website to have more informations about how to find a native penpals:
www.english-at-home.com
And the English stories - you can easily find them on the internet, you needn''t to buy any books. Then plz print those stories in the small sheets, bring them with you to read them whenever you have free time. Use a E-E dictionary when U find a new-word. Good reading!
Oh, and the last - the listening, I also think I have to join an English Club. Poor me, I have so little spare time. I am downloading some audio - books from the internet so that I can practise my listening. The MTV is very useful when you listen to the English songs. They will help you much in your listening, I think.
Well, that''s all.

i don''t know more about 3 Eclub
but DongDa school was my secondary school and i know something about Canbera ( E club in this school)
Not good!!!!!
i can only say that!!!!!!!!!!!1

Thank u for this enthousiastic reply
1.I have re read my post but cant find the errors. Its better if u help me correct it. Thanks
2.U have same situation as me so Gladly to say Hello to u. Im sure we can help each ther effectively.
3.U r good at English but u should start your work. Sorry to hear u spend 0h/day for learning
4.The world should become smaller than your wish because my class is in the morning time (8h30-11h). But hope that we could see each other in the very near future.
5.I think everyone have different way in self-learning. You should create your own method. No one can teach u. Only u know your strong and weak points.
6.Thanks for adding my nick. See u in Yahoo chatting
7.Thanks for your recommend website. Hope I could find a native speaker penfriend there. But I think its better if he is a friend to talk.
8.Youâ?Tre right. No need to buy a book. But could you post me some website where u find interesting stories, novels there? I â?~ve already download some material of Larry King talk show (CNN), some statement of Pre. Bush but its make me bored now.
9.Sure that audio books help u improve listenning skill. But I think MTV is bad. They use too many technic, electronic instrument and sing some bad pronounciation. Just my opinion.
10.And a little joke for today. You are a beautiful girl as I saw your photo in the offline topic. So itâ?Ts nicer to meet you. U learn in Ams?
Best reards,

Thank u i will give it up. It also too far from my home

Oh, I''ve just foud some! ( Pls correct me if I''m wrong, thx )
- write in English ( not by English)
- Oct 16 ( not 16 Oct )
- I''m at work / I''m working ( not I''m work)
- above 600 ( not over 600 )
- I could reach people having ... ( not I could reach people have ... )
- good for my biological clock to get .. ( not good for my biological clock get acquainte )
- spend 1 h learning English ( not spend time to learn English 1 hour )
Oh, it''s too long and I couldnt type more...

Thanks rain for correcting for me...

Actually, I could spend up to 3 h a day for learning in the recent day. Even sometimes I could spend more esp in the weekend.
I know my general English is bad. Therefore within 3 months I must try my best in learning tactics rather than learning in basic grammar or word.
I really donõ?Tt see my advance, I still have around 500 score when testing myself (the best is 530 the worst is 494) . There is no change in the score since my first test ( Iõ?Tve took 7 test from dethi.com). What is the reason?
My listenning skill still badly I often take 15-20/50 wrong . The worst is in lecture and longer conversation which I nearly just guess. I try to apply all tip I know during listenning but still not see the effect.
Structure is better I could get average 10/40 wrong. My basic grammar is bad. Im lazy enough to eliminate this one in all of my ealier learning. I even have no book concern grammar at home. But now I should try some book (someone recommend Long man Toefl 4 in 1) to improve itõ?Ư However I donõ?Tt know whether worth enough to spend time in this domain.
My best skill is reading. I could get around 10/50 wrong in this section. May be its because Iõ?Tve read a lot in the recent day. I read almost my favourite subject through the material download on Internet, of course in English. Especially thanks to Mr. Take who have posted the My life of Bill Clinton here. I enjoy it so much. Other forum people has same target as me could find so much interesting topic are following:
http://www.hn-ams.org/forum/archive/index.php/f-110.html.
Especially in writing essay
http://www.testmagic.com/
Hope u could find it helpful like meõ?Ư
To write, I enrolled in the English writing class of Ms. Van to learn writing . Itõ?Ts a bit easier than I though. Im not sure I can reach a good score with such a low speed.
All I would like to know now is what is the best way to get my needed scores 600.
Some one help me?????????

Hi samurai,
I have corrected some of your message ''''s errors. Hope this helps.
"First of all, let me apologize if my written English is bad. I just want to keep writing in English hoping to improve it. I hope all of you can understand what I will have to say:
Now, it''''s time to thank you all who have posted your experience and knowledge in this English forum. It helps me much in planning my strategy and hopefully you can help me more by judging whether this is a good strategy.
I will take the Toefl test this Oct 16. That gives me about 3 months for preparation. Problem is, I am working and can''t spend more than 2 hours a day to study English. I know it''s not enough (my grade now is just around 480 while my required score is over 600) and I will have to spend more time when the test day comes. This is my strategy and I hope that you can help me to optimize it for best result. Thanksõ?Ư
1. I have a class on Saturday with Mr. Nghiem and I really enjoy it. I think this class is an environment where I could reach the people who have the same goal as mine, knowing where I am in comparison with others. I need yet one more class. I may try Ms. Vanõ?Ts class. What do you think ?
2. Iõ?Tm always thinking learning by myself may be the best way. I also need to be very determined. Every morning I jog while reminding myself that my goal is to get above 600 in test score.

3. Maybe the test will take place in the morning and it''s good for my biological clock to get used to this time. I will change my habit and spend one hour every morning to study English.
4. I have got some TOEFL CD and I will buy every CD TOEFL in the market and to self practice. Let me know if the following is a good CD list.
a.Toefl 4 in 1(Longman)
b.Toefl Sample
c.Longman preparation course
d.Toefl mentor
e.Toefl explorer

5.I will use English-English dictionary as you have recommended.
6. I will join an English club ( Thanks for the topic)?There are 3 clubs with schedules suiting me:
a. Advanced club 2:30-5pm Sunday in Hang Quat
b. 32 Le Ngoc Han 6-8pm Thursday
c. Dong Da school Luong Dinh Cua 6pm Saturday
Which is the best choice?
7. I will find English-speaking friends. I do not have many chances to practice English in real life . What do you think about having a friend like me ? I welcome all of you to chat with me via Yahoo first ( its better if we talk in person afterward). We can help each other, don''''t you think ?
My Yahoo ID: doanrt
8. It might be the best way if I had a native speaker friend. But that hasn''t happened yet. Who can help me?
9. Reading English as much as possible. I have tried some novels but haven''''t found the simple one that doesnõ?Tt have too many complicated words. Can anyone recommend anything on this ?
10. I will watch CNN and HBO more. Animal Planet and DWTV are generally good channels but I donõ?Tt think MTV can help us improve English.
My message is quite long already. Hopefully you didnõ?Tt fall asleep with my bad writing. Thank you all for reading and thanks once more for helping me.
samurai"
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