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Cái này là dịch trong Encatar 2000 ra. Nếu có gì sai thì do ngu tiếng Anh chứ không phải ngu sử. Mà sai thì sao việc quái gì phải chửi nhau chứ.

Cái này là dịch trong Encatar 2000 ra. Nếu có gì sai thì do ngu tiếng Anh chứ không phải ngu sử. Mà sai thì sao việc quái gì phải chửi nhau chứ.

Trận Austerlitz, liên quân Nga - Áo do 2 hoàng đế Nga và Áo cùng cầm quân. Nhưng tổng chỉ huy trận đánh là Kutuzov.
Phía Pháp, Napoléon Đệ nhất vừa cầm quân vừa là tổng chỉ huy.
Lúc quyết định giao chiến với Liên quân Nga-Áo, Napoléon có trong tay ít hơn khoảng 2 vạn quân. Số liệu chính xác thì khó biết vì mỗi sách nói mỗi khác.

May The Force Be With You
Que La Force Soit Avec Vous

Trận Austerlitz, liên quân Nga - Áo do 2 hoàng đế Nga và Áo cùng cầm quân. Nhưng tổng chỉ huy trận đánh là Kutuzov.
Phía Pháp, Napoléon Đệ nhất vừa cầm quân vừa là tổng chỉ huy.
Lúc quyết định giao chiến với Liên quân Nga-Áo, Napoléon có trong tay ít hơn khoảng 2 vạn quân. Số liệu chính xác thì khó biết vì mỗi sách nói mỗi khác.

May The Force Be With You
Que La Force Soit Avec Vous

Xin góp thêm số liệu về Austerlitz.
(Austerlitz nằm trong địa phận của CH Séc bây giờ - "sân nhà" của bokhi - và tên địa phương là Slavkov).
Đây là link: http://www.bond.cz/www/austerlitz/descript.asp
Về số lượng quân sỹ
Description of the armies before the battle of Austerlitz, December 2, 1805
THE FRENCH Commander-in-Chief, Emperor Napoleon I, Commander of General Headquarters, Marshal Louis-Alexandre Berthier.
I Corp - commander, Marshal Bernadotte, approximately 12,300 men and 24 cannons, - Two infantry divisions - Rivaud and Drouet d''Erlon.
III Corp - commander, Marshal Davout, approximately 6300 men and nine cannons, - One infantry division - Friant, one division of dragoons - Bourcier.
IV Corp - commander, Marshal Soult, approximately 24,000 men and 35 cannons, - Three infantry divisions - Saint-Hilaire, Vandamme and Legrand, one light cavalry division - Margaron.
V Corp - commander, Marshal Lannes, approximately 13,000 men and 40 cannons - Two infantry divisions - Caffarelli and Suchet.
Cavalry reserve (Murat''s Corp) - commander, Marshal Murat, 7,000 - 9,000 cavalrymen and nine cannons, two heavy infantry divisions - Nansouty and d''Hautpoul, one division of dragoons - Walther, one light infantry division - Kellerman.
Reserve: imperial Guard - commander, Marshal Bessieres, approximately 5500 men and 23 cannons, Grenadier Division - commanders, Oudinot and Duroc, approximately 5500 men and ten cannons, One division of dragoons - Beaumont.
THE ALLIES Commander-in-Chief, General Mikhail Illarionovich Kutuzov, Commander of Allied Headquarters (General Staff Quarters), General Franz von Weyrother.
Vanguard of the 1st Column - Austrian Kienmayer Corp - commander, General Kienmayer, approximately 6800 men and 12 cannons (5 Austrian infantry battalions and 23 cavalry squadrons, plus 10 hundreds of Russian Cossacks);
lst Column (Russian) - commander, General Dokhturov, approximately 14,200 men and 60 cannons (22 Russian infantry batallions, two hundreds of Cossacks),
2nd Column (Russian) - commander, General Langeron, approximately 12,000 men and 30 cannons (17 Russian infantry battalions, two squadrons of Russian dragoons and two hundreds of Cossacks),
3rd Column (Russian) - commander, General Przybyszewski, approximately 9500 men and 30 cannons (18 Russian infantry battalions), The Allied commander of the first three columns was the Russian, General Buxhowden.
4th Column (mixed) - commanders: the Austrian General Kolowrat and the Russian General Miloradovich, approximately 16,000 men and 75 cannons (15 Austrian infantry battalions and 12 Russian, two squadrons of Austrian dragoons),
5th Cavalry Column (mixed) - commanders: the Austrian General Liechtenstein and the Russian General Uvarov, approximately 7,000 cavalrymen and 24 cannons (17 Austrian squadrons of heavy cavalry, 30 Russian squadrons of dragoons and light cavalry, 12 hundreds of Cossacks),
Allied vanguard (the Russian Bagration Corp) - commander, the Russian General Bagration, approximately 14,000 men and 42 cannons (15 Russian infantry battalions, 33 cavalry squadrons and 15 hundreds of Cossacks),
Reserve: Russian Tsar''s Guard - commander Grand Duke Konstantin Pavlovich, brother of the Tsar, approximately 10,000 men and 40 cannons (ten battalions of guard infantry and 17 squadrons of guard cavalry).
The total French force was approximately 75,000 men. The total Allied force is estimated at approximately 90,000 men, of which some 16,000 were Austrian.
On the side of the Allies, the battle was observed by the Austrian Emperor Francis I and the Russian Tzar Alexander I. The third emperor on the battlefied was Napoleon I. The battle has, therefore, come down through history as the "Battle of Three Emperors".

Xin góp thêm số liệu về Austerlitz.
(Austerlitz nằm trong địa phận của CH Séc bây giờ - "sân nhà" của bokhi - và tên địa phương là Slavkov).
Đây là link: http://www.bond.cz/www/austerlitz/descript.asp
Về số lượng quân sỹ
Description of the armies before the battle of Austerlitz, December 2, 1805
THE FRENCH Commander-in-Chief, Emperor Napoleon I, Commander of General Headquarters, Marshal Louis-Alexandre Berthier.
I Corp - commander, Marshal Bernadotte, approximately 12,300 men and 24 cannons, - Two infantry divisions - Rivaud and Drouet d''Erlon.
III Corp - commander, Marshal Davout, approximately 6300 men and nine cannons, - One infantry division - Friant, one division of dragoons - Bourcier.
IV Corp - commander, Marshal Soult, approximately 24,000 men and 35 cannons, - Three infantry divisions - Saint-Hilaire, Vandamme and Legrand, one light cavalry division - Margaron.
V Corp - commander, Marshal Lannes, approximately 13,000 men and 40 cannons - Two infantry divisions - Caffarelli and Suchet.
Cavalry reserve (Murat''s Corp) - commander, Marshal Murat, 7,000 - 9,000 cavalrymen and nine cannons, two heavy infantry divisions - Nansouty and d''Hautpoul, one division of dragoons - Walther, one light infantry division - Kellerman.
Reserve: imperial Guard - commander, Marshal Bessieres, approximately 5500 men and 23 cannons, Grenadier Division - commanders, Oudinot and Duroc, approximately 5500 men and ten cannons, One division of dragoons - Beaumont.
THE ALLIES Commander-in-Chief, General Mikhail Illarionovich Kutuzov, Commander of Allied Headquarters (General Staff Quarters), General Franz von Weyrother.
Vanguard of the 1st Column - Austrian Kienmayer Corp - commander, General Kienmayer, approximately 6800 men and 12 cannons (5 Austrian infantry battalions and 23 cavalry squadrons, plus 10 hundreds of Russian Cossacks);
lst Column (Russian) - commander, General Dokhturov, approximately 14,200 men and 60 cannons (22 Russian infantry batallions, two hundreds of Cossacks),
2nd Column (Russian) - commander, General Langeron, approximately 12,000 men and 30 cannons (17 Russian infantry battalions, two squadrons of Russian dragoons and two hundreds of Cossacks),
3rd Column (Russian) - commander, General Przybyszewski, approximately 9500 men and 30 cannons (18 Russian infantry battalions), The Allied commander of the first three columns was the Russian, General Buxhowden.
4th Column (mixed) - commanders: the Austrian General Kolowrat and the Russian General Miloradovich, approximately 16,000 men and 75 cannons (15 Austrian infantry battalions and 12 Russian, two squadrons of Austrian dragoons),
5th Cavalry Column (mixed) - commanders: the Austrian General Liechtenstein and the Russian General Uvarov, approximately 7,000 cavalrymen and 24 cannons (17 Austrian squadrons of heavy cavalry, 30 Russian squadrons of dragoons and light cavalry, 12 hundreds of Cossacks),
Allied vanguard (the Russian Bagration Corp) - commander, the Russian General Bagration, approximately 14,000 men and 42 cannons (15 Russian infantry battalions, 33 cavalry squadrons and 15 hundreds of Cossacks),
Reserve: Russian Tsar''s Guard - commander Grand Duke Konstantin Pavlovich, brother of the Tsar, approximately 10,000 men and 40 cannons (ten battalions of guard infantry and 17 squadrons of guard cavalry).
The total French force was approximately 75,000 men. The total Allied force is estimated at approximately 90,000 men, of which some 16,000 were Austrian.
On the side of the Allies, the battle was observed by the Austrian Emperor Francis I and the Russian Tzar Alexander I. The third emperor on the battlefied was Napoleon I. The battle has, therefore, come down through history as the "Battle of Three Emperors".

Về số lượng thiệt hại
It was the Russians who suffered the heaviest losses. In February, 1806 , General Kutuzov personally reported, in detail, the heavy losses to the Tzar Alexander. According to the report, the Russian army lost at the battle 55 senior officers, 437 junior officers, 954 non-commissioned officers, 432 musicians, 17,493 soldiers and 515 members of non-combat units, for a total of 19,886 men. This total represents, however, the dead, wounded, imprisioned and missing, that is to say, not only those who had been killed. Data on the losses of the Imperial Guard are missing.
The Austrian army had a total of 5,922 men killed, wounded, captured or missing.
Precise information on French losses is also available. The French General Headquarters, counted the losses at 8,694 men, of which 1,389 had been killed and 7,260 wounded.

Về số lượng thiệt hại
It was the Russians who suffered the heaviest losses. In February, 1806 , General Kutuzov personally reported, in detail, the heavy losses to the Tzar Alexander. According to the report, the Russian army lost at the battle 55 senior officers, 437 junior officers, 954 non-commissioned officers, 432 musicians, 17,493 soldiers and 515 members of non-combat units, for a total of 19,886 men. This total represents, however, the dead, wounded, imprisioned and missing, that is to say, not only those who had been killed. Data on the losses of the Imperial Guard are missing.
The Austrian army had a total of 5,922 men killed, wounded, captured or missing.
Precise information on French losses is also available. The French General Headquarters, counted the losses at 8,694 men, of which 1,389 had been killed and 7,260 wounded.

Nhân đây cũng xin bàn thêm về chuyện "lấy ít địch nhiều". Clausewitz có dành một chương nhỏ {nếu ai quan tâm thì đấy là chương 8, quyển 3, phần 1 - cuốn "Bàn về chiến tranh") nói về chuyện đấy. Nói chung ở châu Âu cho tới thời cận đại (cuốn sách được viết cỡ những năm 1830) thì rất ít khi có ai chiến thắng được địch thủ có gấp hai lần quân số hoặc hơn.
Ở đấy co nêu ví dụ Napoleon thắng trận Dresden với 120 nghìn chống 220 nghìn quân đối phương, nhưng đã không thắng nỗi trận Lepzig khi cầm 160 nghìn chống 280 nghìn.
Và nói chung cũng nên phân biệt số quân trong một trận đánh và số quân trên cả mặt trận và trong thời kỳ lâu dài. Vị tướng giỏi la vị tướng biết huy động quân vào nhưng thời điểm quyết định cho những trận đánh quyết định.
Ngay cả Clausewitz cũng nói "anh không thể tấn công nếu anh không có uy thế, chí ít là điểm tấn công anh phải có uy thế không về quân số thì cũng về hoả lực". Cái giỏi của Napoleon là điều động quân một cách linh hoạt và cơ động, nên ở những điểm mấu chốt ông ta có nhiều quân hơn.