What do you hate most in a man?

Oh my God , it's such a nice surprise to see a lot of men's replies in this topic though I call upon ladies. Yeah....now, I exactly know the reason . Men are usually hot-tempered and you are always conservative . You never want to listen criticisms from the others. What a pity ! Now, I discover something more about your characteristics.
Have you ever seen the advertising film of the product " Pond's "
The lady with a skin which is not white, soft, beautiful never receive any look from men . However, when she uses whitening cream " Pond's " and her skin is white and more beautiful , immediately, a man dates with her . Therefore, I have a right to think that men love beauty only and just pay attention to women's beauty . They don't care about the others 'cause beauty is the most important quality when they decide to chase women.
Hey, men, I will discover more interesting things of you.
p2p : continue plz.....

Dirosemimi

he he he my dear dirosemini,
By and large, men are certainly more aggressive than women. Just imagine that if all the males were behaving like a sissies, would you, "all the sensitive, sentimental and understanding" females, fall for them? Don't tell me you wish that women would assimilate this world so that all the children of Adam would lose all the traits inherited from him? ....Does this saying" Men are from Mars, women are from Venus" bring a bell to you?
Seems to me you've failed to counter all the valid points from us. You've kept bringing up issuse like " men are hot-tempepered, men are liars..." without backing up your points in a non-biased manner .
For your concern, ladies! We are cool like a cucumber in this thread. I've been enjoying myself as a contributor in this forum.

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Johntrung: I'm sure that i haven't missed TDHung's point, so I didn't say anything in serious way. Also, did i say flirtatous person is bad person? No, I didn't. I know that both men and women are flirt in their own way, but when Di say "men are flirtatious", there are some reasons behind it. First, we come here to say our point of view, right? Then, from girl's view and our experience (at least it's mine and Di) what you fingured out " men is aggressive in the flirting than woman" isn't a good point at all. Go back to my friend's case, i hope i'm wrong, unfortunately i'm not. Anyways, it's her business, i rather say nothing more.
TDHung: Thanks for what u said about my English, it's cheer me up. Now i know why people name us as "weak gender"...we can't create hundreds of offspring in our life as you guys...ehhehe...
Di: Just you and me in this topic. It's so scary. Where are other girl memebers? Come here, plz.
Let i tell you a fun advertisement about men flirt
A woman is driving on the street with her man next by, and every time gals passed their car, that man turned his head to see untill he couldn't see them. A woman is displeased with that action, but she said nothing. Suddently, she stoped and kissed a man who was standing near their car. Her boyfriend just sat stiffly. Then, they continued the journey, but when that man saw a beautiful girl, he covered his face to avoid looking at that girl and try to say something to the woman (sorry, but i couldn't remember what he want to say)...
Di, i think that woman solved perfectly this situation, i might do the same thing to my man if he does as a man above...ahhaha...

To the two lovely ladies , Dirosemimi and P2P :
Well, one consolation about your men leering other women .. They are still interested in women and their libido is still strong Imagine your man suddenly takes in interest in ... other men . How devastating it can be . No joke here . I know of a case, a Vietnamese in Houston, a loving husband and father of two lovely toddlers , suddenly confessed to his wife that he's leaving her for another man !!!! . That guy never looked at other women during the marriage and preferred to hang out with men only . His wife was so happy about that and bragged about his chastity !!!
The case of the woman kissed another man , trying to teach her boyfriend a lesson; well that man, in a way, deserved that . The majority of men are more much discreet . But , I can assure you two ladies, all men do take a quick peek at other cuties, not blatantly as in P2P's story but we all do . As I said, they can't help it . They are programmed by nature, by God to ... keep the human race alive . Laugh as much as you like but that is the truth . Imagine also, if all men are docile, show no interest in ***ual reproduction activities and you women have to be the aggressive party . Hehehe ! we , the human race, won't last another hundred years . Sound ridiculous but it's a "sad" truth .
So, show some mercy, and a lot of understanding, ladies. After all we, men, are just .... human .
Được tdhung sửa chữa / chuyển vào 22/06/2002 ngày 11:09

hi p2p,
yes we all have our own viewpoints about things and that makes each one of us a unique individual. Yet, I think that what we express is based on a series of complex concepts we've adopted from the surounding enviroment. Therefore, if there were no standards or criteria to steer myriad individual ideas in a certain dimension, this world would be in great chaos. Long ago, we ,humans, would think that our planet was in the shape of oval. We only came to realization that such a concept had been untrue after there were enough scientific studies (standard and criteria) to prove the earth is square (just kidding )
My point of giving such examples is while it is agreeable to be extreme about conflict issues on a personal level (say, this guy is a liar, don't fall for him) because everyone would tend to say things in a casual and boundedless way in their daily lives, it may be not appropriate to conclude something about the mass (of individuals) as the conclusion would be stereotyped. THe fact that this man is hot-tempered can't be a fact about other men. THat's why in my previous post I gave examples about women simutaneously being bad at reading maps and good at math.
why scared my friend? You can rest assured that this topic is debated in a nice-and-clean fashion. We all come here to practice English. I think it would be more interesting if the topic is argumentive like this one
So, there are no hard feelings ok. Just give out your opinions against us. If sometimes you feel you're reaching a breakdown point, just tell us" that does it, i give up, you guys win" ok. he heh heh hehe he

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Được johntrung sửa chữa / chuyển vào 22/06/2002 ngày 02:25

Yeah, dirosemi
I canõ?Tt deny the truth men love beauty. Almost men want to have the beautiful girlfriend, but itõ?Ts not the only reason that men are fall in love with women. Beautiful is one of the most important quality, not wrong, even absolutely rightõ?Ư. However, thatõ?Ts not only one to indicate tender gentle of women. You said õ?othey donõ?Tt care about the others õ?o , why we do not care about that. Letõ?Ts imagine, if you had a very handsome boyfriend, but he has a lot of bad characteristics, will you accept to be his girlfriend ?. Donõ?Tt tell me that õ?ogirls never love handsome boy, even you, but still in some cases, right ? Yeah, thatõ?Ts the same way to men. They do not really want to have the beautiful girlfriend but usually be angry and not be tender with them. In brief, men like beautiful women, but itõ?Ts not the only one when we decide to chase women. If someone is not beautiful, but they can attract men in communicating by their tender and charming, men will choose them instead of the beautiful women without tenderõ?Ư.

To TDHung : the case you present is interesting (!) However, do you know the percentage of gays in the world? I think it's not much. So many women have to live in worrying about men's adultery . Futhermore, all adulteries are unacceptable . Is the case of adultery you give out better than the others ? Absolutely not ! So, tell me the reason you present that one?
p2p : yeah, it's a great idea, wonderful solution . I hope we girls can do that to cope with them.
Johntrung : Of course, I completely understand that we can not conclude something bad about man if we just know some individuals. We should avoid being stereotype . However, I think men still have some common characteristics , some basic, nature ones which women should understand and care about.
Fini, Johntrung, p2p : remember to come to our offline meeting on this Thursday. We can discuss more , hihi......

Dirosemimi

There you go girl,
you have been in conflict with your own convictions. First, you believed men were liars and now you said concluding sth bad about men was stereotyped! If the topic was " All women are gold diggers", then what would you think?
You might be right about some basic instincts (not the movie ok ) men have; but i would prefer this kind of predisposition " men and women were created for each other". The bad and the good in men and women are hard to be justified (at least in my own thinking) . Chances that you get acquainted with a man who is a wicked liar are on par with a woman, especially when we are living through all the hassle and hustle of a modern society where things have been invariably changed.
I would love to be a contributor in your coming offline gathering, but I'm not in Vietnam right now.Maybe sometime in the future.
Hope you guys have fun interacting with one another (hopefully in English) that day

It's not wealth one asks for, but just enough to preserve one's dignity, to work unhampered,to be generous, to be independent