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Which version of spoken English do you like?

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t lúc 19:31 ngày 26/03/2004:

romantic, so musical, so "líu lo" like a singing bird.

you''''re such a humourist lol in my opinion, firstly, I would like to telll that the people in here always use many words which can be called "Sublime", I see thats good for those who wants to improve their vocabulary, but...hic, It''''s very difficult to understand. Im living in London_ capital of the UK_the cradle of English, and I see that the more superior your ENglish is, you use more simple words, which are easy for understsanding. I speak British English (certainly), and I often watch USA''''s films, and I see AE is much easier to listen than BE. I loathe Indian ENglish (so sorry 4 those love or speak IE), ''''cause the lecturer of my worst subject is an Indian, during this lecturer''''s class, I always fall asleep bcause It seems I am listening to a bird song without understandability

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hê, hê, I don''t know how long you''ve been studying in the UK and how you''ve been learning English, but some of my friends studying in the UK and the USA are not using English the way you did in the previous posts. What''s more, I don''t agree that the more superior one''s English is, the more simple words he/she uses. It''s undeniable that they sometimes use simple words but only when they decide for themselves who they are communicating with. In spoken conversation, they often use simple language but in writing they tend to use sophisticated language, which entails a lot of sophisticated language and style, just to show that they not only know how to communicate an idea clearly but also displays theirs skills at making a very fine piece of writing. When I had a look at some of the students majoring in English at Hanoi Amsterdam School who got admitted to top American schools, I saw that their essays are all excellent, using very complicated, sophisticated vocabulary, many of which may be unfamiliar with others, and many of which are by NO means simple words and structures.
Perhaps it''s because you''ve spent several years studying in the UK that you always find it irritable to see others experimenting with their newly acquired vocabulary, just as a way to memorize or practice with it. To me, trying new words, especially cool ones, is always a new experience. It not only helps me memorize the words I have just picked up but it also gives me a good chance to practice using it. How can you expect a learner to be content with the sheer limited vocabulary to become a very good user of English??? I don''t ever think that one will get any better if one is content with what he/she has. In learning a foreign language like English, you can''t say that you should use simple words from the likes of basic English textbooks like Streamline Departure, Streamline Connections, etc., and hold on to the hope that your English will gradually improve. The common sense that applies to almost everything in life is that the more difficult a thing is that you can overcome, the better you are prepared to do it the next time.
One more thing I want to tell you is I''ve never been abroad so far, nor have I had any lessons from any English teachers, Vietnamese or otherwise, on earth, so I always have to do everything by myself, which has proved a real challenge to me. To overcome this challenge, I always have to find an appropriate way of learning English and putting new words into use is just one of those ways. I want to improve my English so that I will be in a position to cope with astronomical amount of colllege work far ahead. And that explains why I, like many others in this forum, want to learn good vocabulary and put it into use when and where necessary, and I think that this is a very good habit of learning something, especially a foreign language.
The final word I can have with you today is if you are a Vietnamese who can still speak, pronounce and understand even a single Vietnamese word, you definitely will understand what "liu lo" means in Vietnamese. It''s not English by any means but real Vietnamese!
If you ever want to contribute to this forum, you should encourage your friends here to try using new vocabulary, perhaps in a simple way or in an comprehensible way, rather than mislead them by saying that they should stick with the ****load of simple things they have been familiar with so far.
See that, don''t you???
 
P/S: Spoken B.E, I think, is just a piece of cake for anyone who has learnt English for at least 3 years. Don''t try to mislead me this way ''coz many of my friends also studied in the UK with just 2 years of formal English training, but fully capable of coping with anything called English in their daily life, work and college assignments.
 
 
 
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captor_of_sin, 26/03/2004

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Tớ không thể "bắt" được = Aus. Accent. Hic, có lần phỏng vấn tớ đã 3 lần phải đề nghị repeat lại câu hỏi trong khi câu hỏi chả khó tí gì. Vào một phát cô interviewer rất xinh tươi chào rõ thân thiện " Hello ", biết thế rùi mà nghe cứ nhác như là " Ha noi " nữa chứ. Cả Accent của Koreatớ cũng thấy khoai, như xem cái pro Contender trên Arirang, căng tai ra nghe tớ cũng chỉ hiểu khoảng 50 - 60 % mà thôi. Túm lại là vẫn muốn vote cho American Accent
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meo_khongrau, 27/03/2004

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This topic is so good. But I wonder why there are so many votes for American accent but not British English. Can anyone give me a rough explanation for this phenomenon?
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Thanks a lot for your personal explainations, CoS and Melfice. But can anyone give me a broader explaination why American accent is more favorable among the vast majority of the English Club members Please note that this is not an American Club
p.s come on guys, we are here to discuss not to fight

quidnunc, 28/03/2004

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captor_of_sin Thành viên mới

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úc 16:48 ngày 26/03/2004:

This topic is so good. But I wonder why there are so many votes for American accent but not British English. Can anyone give me a rough explanation for this phenomenon?

Thanks a lot for your personal explainations, CoS and Melfice. But can anyone give me a broader explaination why American accent is more favorable among the vast majority of the English Club members Please note that this is not an American Club p.s come on guys, we are here to discuss not to fight

Hê, hê, Yeah, exactly! This is English Club, which means a club where people can discuss learning, improving or practicing English, and English is anything that is, well, English, from British English to Indian English to American English. So it naturally follows that American English is also qualified for discussion here, not just British English.
On the other hand, American Club, I think, is a club where people discuss anything from American way of life to American people, so to speak.
So I don''''t see anything wrong at the moment about what''''s going on here: Everybody''''s discusing the English language, like British English, American English, etc. We hardly discuss anything about American, and if we do, it is also worth it because in learning a foreign language we are learning not just the language itself but also the natives who speak it, the culture in which the language evolves, so to say.
 
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Được captor_of_sin sửa chữa / chuyển vào 12:15 ngày 28/03/2004
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captor_of_sin, 28/03/2004

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This topic is so good. But I wonder why there are so many votes for American accent but not British English. Can anyone give me a rough explanation for this phenomenon?

Thanks a lot for your personal explainations, CoS and Melfice. But can anyone give me a broader explaination why American accent is more favorable among the vast majority of the English Club members Please note that this is not an American Club p.s come on guys, we are here to discuss not to fight

Just forgot to get straight about your question why so many of the members are picking American as their top choice.
Well, everybody has a different personal taste. The taste is influenced by, say, how often people are exposed to the likes of culture and lifestyles of the people who speak the language. Everywhere and anytime around, people see sth definitely American, from movies to goods to cultures to, well, anything. When peole tune in to a music channel, they often see American singers, American yuppies, American culture, etc. When they watch most of the best movies, they are watching American-made ones. When they are in the middle of choosing where to study if they can decide it for themselves without any constraint of any kind, they are considering American education, etc.... And you know what then???
As for me, I like American accent just because it it is a lot more difficult to obtain than British accent.
You hear that? That is the sound of inevitability...
Được captor_of_sin sửa chữa / chuyển vào 12:28 ngày 28/03/2004
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captor_of_sin, 28/03/2004

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Hi guys, how YOU doin''?
You''re right, CoS, though I''m not sure your opinion represents the vast majority of the members here. However, I really appreciate your time and efforts in giving explainations while many others don''t. I believe the English club would be a better place if every member can contribute their two cents worth.
You''ve got my 5 stars, man
p.s; sometimes, you tend to be rather touchy and ambiguous, don''t you!

quidnunc, 28/03/2004

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Okay.
-_-
Has ANYONE seen Pride and Prejuidice (BBC version) and listened to Mr.Darcy speaking? His accent is a KILLER. There we go, Elizabethian English accent for you! ***XXXXXXXXXY.
MAAAAAAAAAAN! I would die for that man!!! ;_;
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This topic is so good. But I wonder why there are so many votes for American accent but not British English. Can anyone give me a rough explanation for this phenomenon?
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Thanks a lot for your personal explainations, CoS and Melfice. But can anyone give me a broader explaination why American accent is more favorable among the vast majority of the English Club members Please note that this is not an American Club
p.s come on guys, we are here to discuss not to fight
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Hello people, where are you guys? Only COS and Sil joined me here? Come on, give me some explaination from your personal point of view, won''t you?
Thanks awfully in advance!

quidnunc, 30/03/2004

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Hello people, where are you guys? Only COS and Sil joined me here? Come on, give me some explaination from your personal point of view, won''''''''t you? Thanks awfully in advance!

Hi quidnunc, sorry if I was rather touchy or ambigous in the preceding posts. Further to the discussion, I actually can find no other reason ppl like AE. But let me think first, well, perhaps the very first time they took English lessons, they took them from an American teacher, or the instant they touched an English textbook, it was from America. On top of that, they like it perhaps they have their relatives or close friends who studied in America for some time.
For me, as always I like it because it is far more challenging and difficult to adopt, to pick, to master than British English, more difficult but not impossible like Indian English, which is almost impossible to adopt.
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Được britneybritney sửa chữa / chuyển vào 19:06 ngày 31/03/2004
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captor_of_sin, 30/03/2004

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I''m speaking singlish, it''s quite strange and funny . but in fact, i love American English. my teacher say it, it''s good. i

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