Women and men , who are more jealous??!! page 4

Most people will answer :'' of course , women " since women appear to have the tra***ional image of those who know how to endure , to do housework , to bear and to chear children ,especially to consider their husband as a God who is unreplaceable . However , day by day , year by year , as time continues passing , that conception''s begun to change inevitably . Modern women don''t want to depend on their men any longer , they would like to have their all rights as men , they would like to be offered as many choices as possible in order to enhance and better their life , leading to a big problem in love , especially seperated or long-distant one . As far as I am concerned , It''s always easy for a man to keep in touch with his lover , to call her every week , to send gifts or even money to her every month though he doesn''t have much money and try to work for saving enough money to come back and take her hands . In contrast, as I experienced my friend''s situation , he had a girlfriend who was together with him for lots of swears and promises ,once beginning her life in the US made her forget all , she explained that as a girl , she needed a big shoulder to cry on , and that she could find lots of other shoulders which are bigger than her man , the guy who was waiting and hoping for something which never come true . Since that , I have also known many other similar situations happening as my friend''s one and it make me change my thought about women . Are they really faithful as they are reckoned !!?? If not , it''s so poor , guys !!

I cant make out why loyalty counts for much in love. I dont really appreciate loyalty in love.
If you love someone strongly enough, then you will want to stay with him as long as you still love him/her. And in that case, loyalty dosent depend on ***.

In accordance with ur reply , I am sure that with the conception , U can ''t have a long-term relationship and U yourself deprive U of the rights to have a genuine love . U are young and still have many chances in choosing but the way U thought about loyalty in this case shows that U seem to be pessimistic !!! Previously , I reckoned It was a woman who needed the so-called loyalty more than men since they wanted to stay in a peaceful and long-lasting relationship . Furthermore , the fact that time is passing in a non-stop manner will day by day make a woman''s choice narrower , forcing her to have a preperation when her youth comes by . Anyway , i still think women need loyalty more than men ,but don''t know why there are some , even women , who found that no reason to appreciate it !!

I think faithfulness is just a fallacy and a luxury in today''s society. Amongst women of a much more tra***ional type, it''s quite common but who can find women who embrace tra***ional attitudes toward love??? In today''s society, women are noisily clamorous for rights that are commonly thought to belong to only men, the rights to do anything that men can do. More specifically, women wish to have *** with more other men apart from their lovers, husbands or boyfriends. And you know what a typical man in our society do if he can get easy *** or love from some girl other than his girlfiend. In a typical case, he is willing to ***ually entertain her, although in most of the cases he doesn''t love her at all. In his thinking, he won''t lose anything but just a little bit of time and energy, as long as he does it undercover. Of course in any of the societies, be they Asian ones or Western ones, such values as persistent faithfulness is still to be found somewhere, but the point is that it has become a rarity already.
I think if a woman tries to behave the way a man does in ***ual relationships, in love and in life, she will prove that she has successfully got the same rights as men do. Anyway, a woman is a human being just like a man. Why shouldn''t she be allowed to do something that is tra***ionally thought to be allowed to men only???
However, it is unacceptable if she goes out of the way to have *** with other men while her boyfriend or lover keeps faith with her. That totally is unacceptable! But if the man runs after some girl for sheer ***ual needs, she should be allowed to do the same thing as well.
Actually, I don''t understand what love is and so what is in my mind about love is nothing more than sheer perception of my own. Maybe misconception???
You hear that? That is the sound of inevitability...

When I was a teenager, I always desired to have a ony love for the whole life. But time passes, and day by day, I realize that one love for the whole life is impossible, at least that conclusion works for me.
Why do we love?? First and foremost, we love for fun and happiness. At one time, I may find that guy really suitable for me. Time passes, I as well as my view changes, and he is no longer suitable for me. Should I go on with him ? Absolutely no. Should I have to try to be loyal ??? And then pretend to still love him???
Then at the other time, I have a crush on another guy. And then, and then...
I have a wide range of choices, so why do I have to be loyal ?
Coolbiz, you are right, woman''s choice is narrower day by day. But it dosent lead to the fact that we must be loyal. I can infer from your words that, in order to get married , we woman must be loyal. That ''s extremely ridiculous
you are rite, maybe I cant have a long-term relationship with any one. But I dont think it is bad, though it is not good.
Moreover, you man in general are not loyal. So don''t ask us women to have one character that you dont have.

I really like those girls who dare to claim their emerging rights in a proper and acceptable way. Such rights that girls have claims to as smoking, drinking, etc. are totally justifiable. Trouble is that even in major cities in Vietnam like Hanoi or elsewhere, quite a few people still hold on to the ****ing old belief that women should always be inferior to men. More specifically, they should not do things that men do, such as spending the whole night in a pub, smoking, etc. I still remember being asked a ****ing silly question "Do you accept a GF or a wife who smokes or utters bad language???. A truly big YES but maybe she thought I was joking or I was trying to make the case for something. How come??? How ridiculous it it is that women should remain a penelope, yes, a tra***ional penelop, and should not do anything they want after they''ve turned legally 18! To be honest, many of my female friends smoke, drink, or live a life that doesn''t look like that of a more tra***ional women, and I never, no, never find anything wrong with their characters. They always prove to be good, truthful friends, to be useful, kind-hearted citizins, to be helpful collegues, to be good neighbors, to be anything that is deemed desirable in today''s society.
You hear that? That is the sound of inevitability...

hi sgh and capter of sin , U both have very good personal views about this topic . As I mentioned , i just showed u the current reality , not the opinions about the women''s attitude nowadays . U two appear to have a very modern thought but to some extent , it is not very open-minded . I couldn''t really catch ur ideas , capter , on one hand , U said loyalty is nothing in this society , on the other one , U thought It was unacceptable for a woman who had *** with the other guys except for her lover . The fact the women are trying to be equal as men leads to very bad changes in actions and thinkings about love . i can not imagine how the word family could be exist if there was no loyalty . How a child will be when his Mum would like to go to a pub and his Dad , at that time , is busy in bar ? U here seem to be very suspicious about true love , U just mention and highlight what U have experienced so far without noticing there are many wonderful others besides .
I am not conservative , i don''t protest or even support what is called cohabitation since it will give us chances to choose the apt one ,. In fact , we need coliving just because we don''t wanna regret , everyone with all of ur heart , would like to have a really family , a genuine love , but u likely to adapt to the modern trends , Is it because of fashionable lifestyle?///
To sgh , remember , U can only expect ur lover in particular and people around you in general things that U did give them !! Givinng is better than receiving !! U said u did have a boy friend and maybe he did let U down ,, that''s why u had him as a boyfriend , not a husband , because U and him ,actually , did not have a true love . Trust me , and believe in true love , don''t take ur time for modern wasting habits , just spend it seeking and waiting for true love .Until then , the word loyalty will come to U with a full meaning !
once in love , i think we don''t need to weigh between rights and duties, between what u can do and what ur husband or ur wife can ? a true love means sacrifying !!

Hi Coolbiz, thanks for your comments!
You hear that? That is the sound of inevitability...
Được captor_of_sin sửa chữa / chuyển vào 23:20 ngày 30/03/2004

Coolbiz, you are wrong, there is no guy that lets me down. Just because my needs changes, and what he has is not what I need, So we stop.
Giving is not better than giving. Also receiving is not better than giving. We give and we must receive something. I hate the word "sacrify"
Sacrify just makes the other''s life better, but seems useless to our own life.
We just have only one life to live. So why do we have to sacrify. This is 21st century, not in the time of anti- French colonism war.
I dont protest those who are loyal. But to me, loyalty is not appreciated.

the new millennium has really had a strong influence on ur thinking !! u one more time confirm urself with fashionable trends !! u did wanna change , the problem of U & ur boyfriend ''s split totally derive from u . Rite ?? Maybe just because u are young or beautiful ( I guess ) , U seem to offer u a lot of chances to choose guys having some characteristics that meet Ur needs . U know , Human beings'' needs are the ones which can never be fully satisfied . Currently , U have ur own power , It may comprise of Intelligence and beauty , but this kind of power doesn''t last forever . Day after day , u will be less and less beautiful , the fact will anyway make ur needs less and less . If U choose to spend ur Youth freely without considering loyalty as a matter , I bet U will have a very lonely ending !!
I couldn''t agree with U more that this is the 21st century , and we need to have new conceptions in order to adapt , love today is easier for us to "enter and quit " , but the meaning of it remains , in my opinion , love is still sacrifying !! i don''t mean that U must die for ur lover ,but here when in true love , U can live for him !! although time is changing everything , humans are still humans , and U , U are still a woman , nothing can ever change the needs ,which have been acknowlegded for years , are very woman !!